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Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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For someone who is completely ignorant to what is going on with Taiwan / Hong Kong / China… What's the quickest way to get up to speed from a "neutral?" source?

Unfortunately I don't think there's any "neutral" source for news regarding China right now. Both Chinese media and Western media have biased views.

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This is why I laugh when Apple tried to paint themselves as champions of anything more than their share price

They are, loosely, the champions of their customers at least, unlike most of the tech world. They have to do a good enough job to get you to spend $1k on the next year's device. Google just has to not-suck enough that you won't stop using it for free.

But yes, any true moral posturing they make is baloney.

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I disagree. You may see "contested" borders, but not outright US policy. For example, the US recognizes the sovereignty of Kosovo, but Google Maps shows it as a dotted border. And Wikipedia accurately describes it as a disputed state.

Recognition of one side or another in a foreign dispute is a little different than having your own dispute or claim. Guantanamo Bay (disputed between US/Cuba) used to be marked as US territory in Google Maps at least when viewed from the US, although interestingly, I'm looking at it now it doesn't say Cuba / United States along the border anymore. I can't imagine the amount of crap they must go through on the backend…

You assume that maps are uniform throughout the U.S., or that the U.S. government mandates certain depictions. They're not, and the government does not, except for the maps it purchases for itself.

Whatever Google depicts is what Google chooses to depict; and what they pick, at least in the U.S., is a function of what they believe people expect to see or need to see. They depict Taiwan as a separate state despite the U.S. government not recognizing them as such because it's what people expect to see. It's trivial to find maps in the U.S. depicting any alternative you desire. Equivocating popularity with government-mandated depictions is not constructive.

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Inside Microsoft, there's a whole database of geopolitically-sensitive issues that have been accrued over the years. You can see all sorts of border disputes and differences in language that you had to take into account when working on global products. On a related note, now you have movies with different scenes in China. https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/the_extra_looper_scenes_y https://kotaku.com/why-many-in-china-hat…

At least 30% of my enjoyment of Venom came from it being set in SF and me going “Hey look I know that corner!” or “Wow we’ve been to that restaurant, they totally used a different place for that shop front!” Seeing your town in a movie is incredibly rewarding. Just like a musician is basically required to shout “Hello $PLACE” at some point during a performance PS: for the downvoters, that’s what the linked article ci…

One of my favourite Youtube channels, Every Frame A Painting, talks about this in Vancouver - except that the movies are rarely set in Vancouver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojm74VGsZBU

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Microsoft employees in India would risk harsh punishments, including prison time.

I think they meant if Microsoft didn't change the map and went along with the ban, seeing as they mentioned the potential damage to the economy.

> Microsoft employees in India would risk harsh punishments, including prison time.

Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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The anger towards Apple in this thread is misdirected. The US government's official stance recognizes "that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China" and that "the United States does not support Taiwan independence" From: https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-taiwan/ Why should Apple be expected to take a political stance at odds with the official Chinese and US government policies?

The only way the US was allowed to trade with China is if it accepted the one China policy. The US is FORCED to not accept Taiwan.

Taiwan is not part of China. Period.

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#408

China executes an official Taiwan belongs to China stance to save face, as communist bureaucracies love to do. In practice, their official policy lets Taiwan exist as an independently governed region more than the US even allows Hawaii or Cuba to be independent. Even Canada has more of a attachment to the US and its laws than Taiwan does. This is probably a fact lost on most foreigners unaware of the situation. If Ch…

People in Taiwan can freely travel to China. But people in China can only travel to Taiwan via a tour group. So there’s no pressure to taiwan on tourism...

Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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post #248

South Park's latest episode was about Chinese censorship in the West. 'South Park' Scrubbed From Chinese Internet After Critical Episode https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/south-park-banned-chi...

I should get back into that show. I don't recall why I stopped watching.

Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they meant if Microsoft didn't change the map and went along with the ban, seeing as they mentioned the potential damage to the economy.

> Microsoft employees in India would risk harsh punishments, including prison time.

It's entirely pointless to copy and paste the comment I replied to instead of at least attempting to clarify in case I misunderstood.

Why would they face prison time for complying with the law?

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