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In other news, when you were able to visit Google Maps in China you would see the Chinese view of the world where disputed regions are part of China, while the rest of the world would see something else. https://qz.com/224821/see-how-borders-change-on-google-maps-...

Funnily enough I just watched this video about how every map of China is deliberately wrong to be compliant with an idiotic law they have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Di-UVC-_4

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Apple is based in Cupertino, which is at least half Chinese, and is a heavily staffed with Chinese overall. You assume they have Western political sensibilities. Edit: latest demographic data from Wiki, from 2010, says 63% Asian and 26% Chinese

Ah that yellow peril coming out of the woodwork again.

Aren't most Chinese citizens actually backing the Chinese government on this?

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I wonder what would have happened if Microsoft just didn't listen to them. If they ban Windows over a petty reason like that, they're screwing over their own economy.

Microsoft employees in India would risk harsh punishments, including prison time.

I think they meant if Microsoft didn't change the map and went along with the ban, seeing as they mentioned the potential damage to the economy.

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I'm graciously assuming ignorance here. They say "Republic of China," which is the legal name of Taiwan. That is different from "People's Republic of China," which we in the west just call China.

Both “Taiwan” and “China” agree there is only one China and Taiwan is part of it, but they disagree on which government is legitimate :)

The ROC “agrees” with that framing of the conflict in the sense that they recognize that the PRC has signalled that a good way to get the conflict to become an imminently mortal one would be to publicly disagree with that framing.

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This reminds me of the story about how the first release of Windows 95 was banned in India because 8 pixels of the map shown in the timezone selection control panel were colored in such a way that suggested parts of Kashmir were part of Pakistan. https://www.cnet.com/news/how-eight-pixels-cost-microsoft-mi... https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20030822-00/?p=42...

And they fixed the issue by making the highlight color the same as the normal color (so each pixel is still associated with a timezone/country) internally.

This later led to Poland going Atlantis, when MS removed its timezone instead of moving it to another timezone.

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20061027-00/?p=29...

https://content.spiceworksstatic.com/service.community/p/pos...

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I beleive that the unicode consortium have chosen not to say much about witch flags are there pretty much for this reason. They don't want unicode to get mixed in with international politics.

There is no truly neutral position though. Who gets the final say then?

Whoever renders the text. Since most applications delegate to the OS for that, it's typically the OS. The OS generally follows whatever the jurisdiction it's sold in requires. In theory an application could override it by doing custom rendering of these codepoints.

The unicode standard doesn't care, as explained above, since it just defines an alphabet and takes no position in which country/locale codes are to be rendered with a flag.

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by couldn't compete, i assume you mean, "didn't want to hand over all their IP to CCP, who would in turn give it to the native competitor", right?

No by couldn't compete, the OP probably means western tech companies do a remarkably poor job of understanding the Chinese market and frequently gets out innovated. When Google first entered the Chinese market, Google PinYin input lifted data from Sogou Pinyin because they couldn't get basic input prediction right. Baidu RankDex predates Google PageRank and was referenced by Larry Page when he submitted patent for Pa…

this looks like a good read, thanks for the rec

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In other news, when you were able to visit Google Maps in China you would see the Chinese view of the world where disputed regions are part of China, while the rest of the world would see something else. https://qz.com/224821/see-how-borders-change-on-google-maps-...

This is true for every country in the world. Google Maps in the US displays borders/countries which the US government recognizes.

The U.S. doesn't recognize Taiwan as a state, but that's how it's typically shown in the U.S. Though it's also quite easy to see various alternatives. And Taiwan is hardly the only example of this.

The U.S. has no laws requiring specific depictions, nor does its government cajole movie producers to depict regions in certain ways. Many countries are similar. Map makers choose borders largely based on what they expect their audience wants or needs.

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The craziest part of this article is the note at the end about airlines being forced to remove mention of Taiwan in order to do business in China. Went to Delta website to find a flight to Taipei, and sure enough every stop of trip lists city, state/country and for Taipei is just says: Taipei, According to the article, even this is still 'out of compliance,' because it should say 'Taipei, Taiwan China,' blown away th…

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