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Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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This reminds me of the story about how the first release of Windows 95 was banned in India because 8 pixels of the map shown in the timezone selection control panel were colored in such a way that suggested parts of Kashmir were part of Pakistan. https://www.cnet.com/news/how-eight-pixels-cost-microsoft-mi... https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20030822-00/?p=42...

I wonder what would have happened if Microsoft just didn't listen to them. If they ban Windows over a petty reason like that, they're screwing over their own economy.

It's something plenty of politicians everywhere have done over the years for things far more trivial than nationalism.

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To fight the censorship cancer, would the western world have to agree to exclude and isolate China? Would this inevitably end up in a west vs. China+Russia world war? Will China eventually grow to the size that it can successfully invade and annex the west? One Earth = one China?

"To fight the censorship cancer, would the western world have to agree to exclude and isolate China?"

I would rather wait the day our beloved western world agrees on a single, objective, independent definition on what censorship is, then I would want to see people like Snowden, Manning, Assange and similar others walk free and unharmed. That day I could concede we would have superior moral grounds to exclude and isolate other countries.

Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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It's worth noting that the ROC flag (== Taiwan flag) was the flag flown all over the mainland before 1949. It's a part of mainland history as well.

I'm not supporting any political stance here, but just saying that it's a bit weird to ban a symbol that was part of the mainland's history as well, and on its own, carries more historical significance than just Taiwan independence.

Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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Inside Microsoft, there's a whole database of geopolitically-sensitive issues that have been accrued over the years. You can see all sorts of border disputes and differences in language that you had to take into account when working on global products. On a related note, now you have movies with different scenes in China. https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/the_extra_looper_scenes_y https://kotaku.com/why-many-in-china-hat…

At least 30% of my enjoyment of Venom came from it being set in SF and me going “Hey look I know that corner!” or “Wow we’ve been to that restaurant, they totally used a different place for that shop front!” Seeing your town in a movie is incredibly rewarding. Just like a musician is basically required to shout “Hello $PLACE” at some point during a performance PS: for the downvoters, that’s what the linked article ci…

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Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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I disagree. You may see "contested" borders, but not outright US policy. For example, the US recognizes the sovereignty of Kosovo, but Google Maps shows it as a dotted border. And Wikipedia accurately describes it as a disputed state.

Recognition of one side or another in a foreign dispute is a little different than having your own dispute or claim. Guantanamo Bay (disputed between US/Cuba) used to be marked as US territory in Google Maps at least when viewed from the US, although interestingly, I'm looking at it now it doesn't say Cuba / United States along the border anymore. I can't imagine the amount of crap they must go through on the backend…

> Recognition of one side or another in a foreign dispute is a little different than having your own dispute or claim.

I agree. A better list of places to look in the maps are the current disputed areas between USA and Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_areas_disputed_by_Cana... In particular, what do you see in this map? https://www.google.com/maps/place/Machias+Seal+Island/@44.33...

Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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China is showing the ability to control one of the world's largest, and most advanced companies. It isn't petty–it is scary. The U.S. and others have sold their soul to the devil for $299 flat screen tvs.

Currently, most of China's power comes from its economy. There is barely any military presence outside of the mainland, and only a few years ago they opened their first outpost. So it's not surprising that Apple is conforming to their requests. And they are not the only ones. A while back, German carmaker Daimler made an instagram post with a Dalai Lama quote [1]. They ended up apologizing for "hurting the feelings o…

China also sometimes tries to hold businesses hostage that try to leave.

https://www.roboticsbusinessreview.com/manufacturing/china-d...

Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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I don't know if things are different now, but when I went to school in HK a long time ago, most Chinese people in Hong Kong I talked to felt Taiwan should be part of China.

It's interesting that someone thinks that people of one region have a relevant opinion about what government people of another region should be controlled by.

Isn't that exactly what most of the commenters on this post are doing?

Re: Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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Ubuntu was the first OS to support Kurdish in 2006[1]. We have to keep pushing for open platforms in the face of state sponsored cultural suppression. Prior to 1991, Turkey banned speaking Kurdish in public and they successfully pressured Microsoft to keep it out of Windows until version 10.

It is of increasing relevancy as imperialist governments around the world put pressure on minority populations. Just yesterday the Trump admin opened the doors to Turkish expansion into a Kurdish region of northern Syria.

1. http://www.unthinkingly.com/2006/12/07/ubuntu-in-kurdish/

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