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Attorney General will ask Zuckerberg to halt plans for end-to-end encryption

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Re: Attorney General will ask Zuckerberg to halt plans for end-to-end encryption

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Post by bduerst »

jki275 wrote: post #574
bduerst wrote: post #552

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In early 2018, Apple forced their users to opt-in to migrating iCloud encryption keys and data to Chinese data centers: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insigh... Chinese government nationalized the data centers six months later, gaining access to all the encryption keys and user iCloud data at rest: https://mashable.com/article/china-government-apple-icloud-d...

You've missed the fact that the OP said ALL . Apple does business in China the way they have to do business in China. I don't agree with that, but I'm also quite sure they have not given my iCloud keys to China.

And you missed the point where I said that it was an oddly narrow goalpost.

Also, how exactly was what I said "not accurate at all"? I accuarately said Apple was sharing iCloud data and encryption keys with the Chinese government.

Re: Attorney General will ask Zuckerberg to halt plans for end-to-end encryption

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Post by jki275 »

bduerst wrote: post #581
jki275 wrote: post #574

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've missed the fact that the OP said ALL . Apple does business in China the way they have to do business in China. I don't agree with that, but I'm also quite sure they have not given my iCloud keys to China.

And you missed the point where I said that it was an oddly narrow goalpost. Also, how exactly was what I said "not accurate at all"? I accuarately said Apple was sharing iCloud data and encryption keys with the Chinese government.

You claimed Apple gives access to ALL iCloud data to China. That is not correct, which is why I pointed that out.

Re: Attorney General will ask Zuckerberg to halt plans for end-to-end encryption

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Post by adfgadfasa »

outoftheabyss wrote: post #559
adfgadfasa wrote: post #352

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I'm not interested in getting into a slapfight about who was worse, but I think it's pretty clear that _The Trump Administration_ is treating Southern American migrants purposefully poorly. I know you're trying to point out some supposed hypocrisy for not criticizing Obama or Clinton or something, so I'll let you know I think they too enacted unforgivable political violence. Happy? People exist outside the Republican…

Yes, just convenient how silent those people are in certain unforgivable situations, until it comes to retrospect of course

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Re: Attorney General will ask Zuckerberg to halt plans for end-to-end encryption

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Post by outoftheabyss »

adfgadfasa wrote: post #583
outoftheabyss wrote: post #559

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Yes, just convenient how silent those people are in certain unforgivable situations, until it comes to retrospect of course

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Fascist. Classic.

Re: Attorney General will ask Zuckerberg to halt plans for end-to-end encryption

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Post by outoftheabyss »

adfgadfasa wrote: post #585
outoftheabyss wrote: post #584

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Fascist. Classic.

Oh fuck you got me. Good work. I'm going to renounce my political views now. Shut the fuck up you stupid fash.

You have issues

Re: Attorney General will ask Zuckerberg to halt plans for end-to-end encryption

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Post by bduerst »

jki275 wrote: post #582
bduerst wrote: post #581

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you missed the point where I said that it was an oddly narrow goalpost. Also, how exactly was what I said "not accurate at all"? I accuarately said Apple was sharing iCloud data and encryption keys with the Chinese government.

You claimed Apple gives access to ALL iCloud data to China. That is not correct, which is why I pointed that out.

No I did not. You can read the comment thread and see that. That's your own straw man.

Re: Attorney General will ask Zuckerberg to halt plans for end-to-end encryption

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Post by jki275 »

bduerst wrote: post #587
jki275 wrote: post #582

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You claimed Apple gives access to ALL iCloud data to China. That is not correct, which is why I pointed that out.

No I did not. You can read the comment thread and see that. That's your own straw man.

"..giving the Chinese government access to all iCloud pictures, .."

Direct quote. Emphasis mine.

Re: Attorney General will ask Zuckerberg to halt plans for end-to-end encryption

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Post by bduerst »

jki275 wrote: post #588
bduerst wrote: post #587

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No I did not. You can read the comment thread and see that. That's your own straw man.

"..giving the Chinese government access to all iCloud pictures, .." Direct quote. Emphasis mine.

>"Apple shares user encryption keys with the Chinese government, for example, giving the Chinese government access to all iCloud pictures, messages, documents, videos, etc."

Is the full sentence with context, meaning access for all the iCloud data for the encryption keys being shared. Don't mince words because you misunderstood the sentence.

Re: Attorney General will ask Zuckerberg to halt plans for end-to-end encryption

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Post by jki275 »

bduerst wrote: post #589
jki275 wrote: post #588

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"..giving the Chinese government access to all iCloud pictures, .." Direct quote. Emphasis mine.

>"Apple shares user encryption keys with the Chinese government, for example, giving the Chinese government access to all iCloud pictures, messages, documents, videos, etc." Is the full sentence with context, meaning access for all the iCloud data for the encryption keys being shared . Don't mince words because you misunderstood the sentence.

There is no grammatical foundation for your parsing of the sentence. If you meant it that way, you wrote it incorrectly.
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