Reddit learned too late about the user generated content business: Don't get into the user generated content business.
Reddit, where chaos thrives, tries to clean up to attract ads from big brands
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Re: Reddit, where chaos thrives, tries to clean up to attract ads from big brands
#32As with everything internet: good doesn't last. Now that Reddit has started its demise, where do we flok to next?
You're saying this on HN: a site that's vastly more regulated than reddit ever has been or is likely to be. I'm old enough to remember reddit before the days of subreddits. It wasn't a magnet for extreme content back then. That happened as a result of subreddits.
One example of an effective barrier that has kept shit to a minimum is metafilter, where you need to pay a one time token 5 dollars to make an account. It's been around for about twenty years now.
Re: Reddit, where chaos thrives, tries to clean up to attract ads from big brands
#33As with everything internet: good doesn't last. Now that Reddit has started its demise, where do we flok to next?
You're saying this on HN: a site that's vastly more regulated than reddit ever has been or is likely to be. I'm old enough to remember reddit before the days of subreddits. It wasn't a magnet for extreme content back then. That happened as a result of subreddits.
Wasn't it when Digg did their very unpopular redesign/rework that people left there and headed to Reddit?
Re: Reddit, where chaos thrives, tries to clean up to attract ads from big brands
#34Well, as the disease of advertising progresses, Reddit too will shed all that made it interesting. It so happens that first to go are the people almost universally considered undesirable, but it won't stop at that.
Re: Reddit, where chaos thrives, tries to clean up to attract ads from big brands
#35Not even the internet is safe from gentrification.
I'd argue it's almost the other way around. Ever since the internet got popular with companies it's mostly been very 'clean' in that most websites represent a single company or community and you could easily stick to seeing only 'approved' content. Now with 'social media', the internet is finally seeing the real messiness of the real world and places where all types congregate.
Social media is best viewed not as Internet sites, but as mini-Internets spun on top of the real one. A company fanpage or company subreddit is the same as company site on the real Internet. A subreddit or community group is the equivalent of an Internet forum of pre-social-media days. The main difference is that all these mini-Internets are fully centralized, controlled each by a single corporate entity, and monetized through advertisement and surveillance.
Re: Reddit, where chaos thrives, tries to clean up to attract ads from big brands
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
And that's why HN is only good for a very specific and narrow subtopic of the whole reddit universe. You can't even have decent political discussion here, not mentioning all the other Reddit's delightful crazyness.
> And that's why HN is only good for a very specific and narrow subtopic of the whole reddit universe. Which is a good thing IMO. Not everything needs to be the next (or just another) digg/reddit/whatever. HN deliberately has a more specific focus than that of reddit, it is a feature not a flaw (if you watn everything to be reddit, then perhaps you would consider it a flawed feature). > You can't even have decent pol…
> Complaining that you can't have the political discussion that you want on a forum where politics is officially off-topic, is like complaining that you can't have the bacon cheese burger (with real pig and cow involved) that you want in the vegan restaurant you've decided to take lunch in.
Except this is disingenuous. There are political discussions found here, but one side is generally downvoted.
Re: Reddit, where chaos thrives, tries to clean up to attract ads from big brands
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're saying this on HN: a site that's vastly more regulated than reddit ever has been or is likely to be. I'm old enough to remember reddit before the days of subreddits. It wasn't a magnet for extreme content back then. That happened as a result of subreddits.
You are right, but HN is regulated . Reddit is moderated . On Reddit there are so many examples of straight bad moderation, personal feuds, and aberrant behavior recently. Take a peek at /r/watchredditdie.
I'm not sure what the distinction is here?
Re: Reddit, where chaos thrives, tries to clean up to attract ads from big brands
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're saying this on HN: a site that's vastly more regulated than reddit ever has been or is likely to be. I'm old enough to remember reddit before the days of subreddits. It wasn't a magnet for extreme content back then. That happened as a result of subreddits.
>It wasn't a magnet for extreme content back then. That happened as a result of subreddits. This. And it's not just reddit. As long as you can create subgroups within communities you're eventually going to attract some problematic people. While something like CP on tumblr really brought it to light, tumblr was and still is home to some insanely extreme ideologies. Ideologies that some people find completely idiotic b…
What is the problem with having extreme or dumb ideologies?
Without extreme views you can't have progress: in a lot of countries, being for homosexual rights or abortion is extreme.
Re: Reddit, where chaos thrives, tries to clean up to attract ads from big brands
#39> known for provocative discussions and fringe groups
??? After the recent cleanups, there is basically only porn, video games and democratic talking points left. There is nothing even remotely provocative that isn't framed by huge warning signs
Re: Reddit, where chaos thrives, tries to clean up to attract ads from big brands
#40As with everything internet: good doesn't last. Now that Reddit has started its demise, where do we flok to next?
You can go to 4chan or 8chan, there is always some place for even more fringe opinions.