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What’s good career advice you wouldn’t want to have your name on?

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Post by whycombagator »

insickness wrote: post #142
knaik94 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Questions about the audio recording, have you ever had pushback from others? Is it a ask for forgiveness not permission situation? How transparent have you been day to day, for example is it visible during meetings or in your pocket? And do you keep a specific audio recorder/use only work phone or have you recorded on personal devices like your non-work phone?

I hit record on my personal phone before I go into the meeting, then turn the screen off and put my phone on the table at the meeting. A lot of people put their phone on the table at meetings.

I hope you've looked up your local wiretapping laws...

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Post by throwaway6890 »

Consider your choice of field carefully. I loved programming and yet doing it for a living and climbing the ladder made me start hating it. IMHO the tech field is overrun with young, bright, energetic people, most of whom are dreamers with their own private techno-utopian fantasies who secretly harbor the belief they'll be multi-millionaires or billionaires in a few short years. Dreamers are mostly innocent but there are lots of cutthroat assholes and psychopaths (as there are in many fields). The blood (money) in the water attracts some seriously disturbed people. Greed is everywhere, and in many forms.

Do something you love that doesn't require you to compromise your morals.

I wish I had been a musician. I wish I had focused on finding the right mate instead of so many nights programming, even though it brought me some fame and some money. I'm a little fucked up because I chose tech over loving the right person, and they are gone now.

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Post by tomhoward »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #149
gota wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume you're being downvoted not because what you said os controversial - it is in the spirit of the topic - but because it is not advice at all. Its just misogyny. "Women - make a point of branding yourselves in linkedin, communication, personal branding to leverage the advantages that are being offered, use the overcompensating in treatment of women to your advantage" - still stupid, less overtly misogynistic, a…

How is it misogyny? Do you work where I work? I feel weird even saying it because it does feel misogynistic but it matches my actual experience at my current job.

It's not "career advice" - i.e., something people can contemplate and act on to improve their career. It's just inflammatory social commentary.

Re: What’s good career advice you wouldn’t want to have your name on?

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

ggm wrote: post #21

Have the courage to stand up for what you believe in, even if it terminates your employment status. I'm only unkeen to have my name on this, because I haven't done it, and I wish several times in the past, I had. I respect the person who did this early in his career in one ISP immensely: it was stunning to watch somebody say "you're full of shit" to the new CEO, and walk out. (he was btw, full of shit)

What if you're 99% sure someone doesn't know what they're talking about, but there could be on shred of crucial information, you aren't privy to, since companies are sometimes large and unwieldy things, and information doesn't always flow as it should.

You could call someone out, and make a fool of yourself, if you're wrong. It would make me very hesitant to ever actually do something like this, because you never know.

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

Erudite_Genius wrote: post #5

Never see a job as a career. The ONLY PATH for wealth is to work for yourself by starting and building your own business. Make no mistake... You are always building a business, and if you're not building YOURS, you are building THEIRS.

A lot of people become industry insiders by building other people's businesses. Then, when they can't overcome the inefficiencies, they leave and start their own business. This is the story of Zoom, and others.

Building someone's else's business, as a launchpad for your own, isn't a bad idea.

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Post by oliv__ »

mdorazio wrote: post #71

Article comments and comments in this thread seem to miss the point of the title entirely. Here's some actual advice I don't want my name on, but seems pretty effective based on working at a lot of different Big Cos: - Always go for prestige over purpose. Have a choice between a shiny project with very little actual impact to the company and a behind the scenes project that will actually make lives better for employe…

Man you must hate life

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Post by ggm »

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #154
ggm wrote: post #21

Have the courage to stand up for what you believe in, even if it terminates your employment status. I'm only unkeen to have my name on this, because I haven't done it, and I wish several times in the past, I had. I respect the person who did this early in his career in one ISP immensely: it was stunning to watch somebody say "you're full of shit" to the new CEO, and walk out. (he was btw, full of shit)

What if you're 99% sure someone doesn't know what they're talking about, but there could be on shred of crucial information, you aren't privy to, since companies are sometimes large and unwieldy things, and information doesn't always flow as it should. You could call someone out, and make a fool of yourself, if you're wrong. It would make me very hesitant to ever actually do something like this, because you never kno…

So this is a legit thing. You don't know all the facts, there can be reasons CEO asshats say things. But there are also times you have to think hard about what you trust: do you trust your core knowledge, or do you assume they know better? Remember, CEO level people have KPI which is about shareholder benefits, not necessarily reality, or ethics.

I sat in on an 'all hands' briefing once where a CEO level guy spent 2hrs demanding we code a 3D VR shopping mall for him to sell to local stores. When I started talking about how immature the market was (this was 1994 and most people were on dialup) I got roasted. Afterwards, the CTO said he did that randomly, to get dominance, it was just how he chose to behave in a room, in order to "win". I didn't stay in that company long.

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Post by flying_dutchman »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #144
adrianpike wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think so many of us dream of having the financial freedom to be able to do this. At least for me, that's one of my big drivers to build passive income streams and lifestyle hustles. Honestly, that's the kind of teammate I deeply love to work with - one who doesn't _need_ the job, but one who _wants_ it and believes in what we're doing.

There are very few jobs worth believing in to be honest.

This is not accurate. There are large number of jobs that have a directly impact, as part of solid teams working on things for the right reasons.

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Post by lapaz17 »

throwaway6890 wrote: post #152

Consider your choice of field carefully. I loved programming and yet doing it for a living and climbing the ladder made me start hating it. IMHO the tech field is overrun with young, bright, energetic people, most of whom are dreamers with their own private techno-utopian fantasies who secretly harbor the belief they'll be multi-millionaires or billionaires in a few short years. Dreamers are mostly innocent but there…

Did you decide how to find this mate?

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Post by croh »

JackFr wrote: post #118
mdorazio wrote: post #71

Article comments and comments in this thread seem to miss the point of the title entirely. Here's some actual advice I don't want my name on, but seems pretty effective based on working at a lot of different Big Cos: - Always go for prestige over purpose. Have a choice between a shiny project with very little actual impact to the company and a behind the scenes project that will actually make lives better for employe…

> - Loyalty is for chumps. That's simply not true, but ... - Be loyal to people not things. - Loyalty is earned, not given out freely.

Not agree with first. I have seen people change over time.
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