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It really feels like democracy is slowly dying all over the world.
Face masks have been banned in many places in America (for protests) some time now. I don't understand why this event makes us saddened.
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Agreed. They've been educated about history and understand what's at stake. I wish the rest of democratic societies would already be taking a strong stand with them. The tyrannical powers in control of China at the moment, much like Trump's rise, will be countered at the HK situations wakens us to the behaviour of China's tyrants until now relative limited light being shone on their bad behaviours. Edit: Especially c…
Time to burn some karma again. Google "gent forum spies" sans quotes, look for cryptome(dot)org. Should be an article from july, 2012ish. Give it a read. It's a bit of an eye opener for the uninitiated.
Some of the topics:
> Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum..
> Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
I knew this was done, but this is essentially the guide book. Jeez.
I'm curious though - why didn't you directly link to it?
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> It really feels like democracy is slowly dying all over the world. If it seems that way, it's because we've stopped fighting for it. Any regime without some basic level of true democratic representation and civil liberties should be the subject of official embargoes and individual boycotts. Unfortunately, many have sold out democracy to please the all-important shareholders or just to take advantage of cheap stuff.
The supremely naive "end of history"-era thinking has a lot of inertia. Now it's unclear who's left to fight for Democracy as the old champions are all dead and current generations have no concept of what that would even mean since they've just been reaping the rewards their whole lives.
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> It really feels like democracy is slowly dying all over the world. If it seems that way, it's because we've stopped fighting for it. Any regime without some basic level of true democratic representation and civil liberties should be the subject of official embargoes and individual boycotts. Unfortunately, many have sold out democracy to please the all-important shareholders or just to take advantage of cheap stuff.
The supremely naive "end of history"-era thinking has a lot of inertia. Now it's unclear who's left to fight for Democracy as the old champions are all dead and current generations have no concept of what that would even mean since they've just been reaping the rewards their whole lives.
During the American revolutionary war, France was a tremendous ally and instrumental to the colonies’ secession from Britain. The Marquis de Lafayette came over to fight for us, without pay, in his early 20s, forgoing his family’s desires and aristocratic opportunities. His family was so opposed to him going to the colonies, that local governments were involved in finding and preventing him from boarding ships. He ev…
I'd say do it, if you feel this way. This guy did it: https://idlewords.com/2019/08/a_walk_in_hong_kong.htm
Even if you stay on the sidelines, you could probably still help by being a witness, spreading their message, and maybe forging contacts to provide material and logistical support later.
Though, be aware that pro-government propaganda is using photos of Westerners near the protests to fuel a fake-news narrative that they're being orchestrated by the CIA, but don't let stupid, uncontrollable stuff like that that stop you.
It really feels like democracy is slowly dying all over the world.
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Time to burn some karma again. Google "gent forum spies" sans quotes, look for cryptome(dot)org. Should be an article from july, 2012ish. Give it a read. It's a bit of an eye opener for the uninitiated.
Wow, this is fascinating. Some of the topics: > Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum.. > Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation I knew this was done, but this is essentially the guide book. Jeez. I'm curious though - why didn't you directly link to it?
Particularly in Hong Kong related threads.
Spread it far and wide. Never let anyone stop the Signal.
I think it odd that we have to look at another country losing its rights to understand the feeling of loss. Much of what they have been doing in Hong Kong would never have been allowed here in America.
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I wouldn't say that democracy is dying so much as freedom is dying. You can always vote yourself into oppression, but you can only shoot your way out (2nd amendment) if you first fail to talk (1st amendment) the masses out of voting for their own oppression.
> You can always vote yourself into oppression True. But those in power can suppress voter turnout through a variety of means, whether thats spread of misinformation ("voting is [wrong day] at [wrong location]!"), literal voter suppression (intimidation tactics at places of voting, illegally collecting and destroying mail in ballots), to structural rigging, like gerrymandering. We're definitely seeing a mixture of bo…
(Obviously this means that any party not pandering to rich is doomed to lose, unless there's a general uprising.)
Will this have any practical effect on the protests? Haven't the authorities already declared that protesters are engaged in illegal activity, so what's one more act of civil disobedience? Also, aren't the "masks" worn by many of the protesters the kind of thing that's often worn in Asia for hygiene and pollution reasons, so this would ban even innocent behavior?