In addition to tariffs, they were effectively training their competitors in China. Manufacturing in China just accelerates the rate of IP theft.
Isn't that how Samsung grew during the 90s? Japanese companies outsourced to them, and basically trained their competitors. Manufacturing in Korea during the 90s just accelerated the rate of IP theft. It was like that in Japan during the 80s too. I wonder which country will be after China.
Samsung ends mobile phone production in China
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Re: Samsung ends mobile phone production in China
#62Samsung already makes most of their phones in Vietnam. Not a huge difference, other than the lack of tariffs. https://www.economist.com/asia/2018/04/12/why-samsung-of-sou...
There should be more push back against goods made in non-democratic countries like Vietnam, and not just against Made-in-China. My previous phone was a Samsung Galaxy S5 and I was surprised to find out that it was made in Korea. Manufacturing in Korea certainly didn't seem to harm Samsung's financial prospects back then, and the phone wasn't any more expensive than its Made-in-China competitors. I have zero reservati…
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't that how Samsung grew during the 90s? Japanese companies outsourced to them, and basically trained their competitors. Manufacturing in Korea during the 90s just accelerated the rate of IP theft. It was like that in Japan during the 80s too. I wonder which country will be after China.
It's also how the US grew in the 18th century, by stealing IP from the global technological leader, Britain (who stole a great deal from India).
Or did you just mean stolen resources?
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why?
I'll try it without citations :) Because China is an authoritarian regime that imprisons, and sometimes kills, people for their opinions. Because China systematically destroyed one of the oldest and most peaceful cultures the world has ever seen in Tibet. Because China put 100's of 1000's of Muslims in concentration camps. A program which is still happening by all (non Chinese government) accounts. And so on. Not tha…
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This reeks of whataboutism. IP theft is problematic and nobody has ever engaged in it to the extent that China has. The Chinese intelligence apparatus is actively engaged in IP theft as well.
The entire US Industrial Revolution was kicked off by Francis Cabot Lowell stealing the designs of British power looms. Alexander Hamilton, as treasury secretary, adopted an actual policy of stealing technology and sent spies to Britain as well. This is how it works. Countries without technology steal it from those that do. It's basically a market force- if you don't make it available at something approaching a reaso…
Re: Samsung ends mobile phone production in China
#66In addition to tariffs, they were effectively training their competitors in China. Manufacturing in China just accelerates the rate of IP theft.
Isn't that how Samsung grew during the 90s? Japanese companies outsourced to them, and basically trained their competitors. Manufacturing in Korea during the 90s just accelerated the rate of IP theft. It was like that in Japan during the 80s too. I wonder which country will be after China.
Now, stop making stuff up to rationalize China's IP theft.
Re: Samsung ends mobile phone production in China
#67Samsung already makes most of their phones in Vietnam. Not a huge difference, other than the lack of tariffs. https://www.economist.com/asia/2018/04/12/why-samsung-of-sou...
There should be more push back against goods made in non-democratic countries like Vietnam, and not just against Made-in-China. My previous phone was a Samsung Galaxy S5 and I was surprised to find out that it was made in Korea. Manufacturing in Korea certainly didn't seem to harm Samsung's financial prospects back then, and the phone wasn't any more expensive than its Made-in-China competitors. I have zero reservati…
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#68Re: Samsung ends mobile phone production in China
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's also how the US grew in the 18th century, by stealing IP from the global technological leader, Britain (who stole a great deal from India).
I know Britain exploited the hell out of India as a colony, but what IP did they steal? Or did you just mean stolen resources?
Re: Samsung ends mobile phone production in China
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't that how Samsung grew during the 90s? Japanese companies outsourced to them, and basically trained their competitors. Manufacturing in Korea during the 90s just accelerated the rate of IP theft. It was like that in Japan during the 80s too. I wonder which country will be after China.
This reeks of whataboutism. IP theft is problematic and nobody has ever engaged in it to the extent that China has. The Chinese intelligence apparatus is actively engaged in IP theft as well.