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Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Post by reificator »

wbl wrote: post #399
reificator wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://gitea.io/en-us/ (and its parent https://gogs.io/ ) https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/#self-managed https://github.com/enterprise

?? Git works just fine without any of that. CVS has been around since 1990, RCS since 1982. And SCCS is old enough to be OP's father.

> ?? Git works just fine without any of that.

I echo your ??. Sure you don't need a central repository to use git. What does that have to do with suggesting some git hosts that aren't cloud based?

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Post by [deleted] »

house9-2 wrote: post #355
marrone12 wrote: post #242

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This is bad advice. If you accidentally leave personally identifiable healthcare information on some random stage server and that server gets hacked, that is a federal crime. If the data and application code are very intertwined (likely in a pre-SOA era), it can be very difficult to version control code completely isolated from PII.

> If you accidentally leave personally identifiable healthcare information on some random stage server and that server gets hacked, that is a federal crime. Not sure how that relates to Version Control? I personally don't put production (real) data on staging servers to begin with; always scrub your production clones or generate data for testing instances. > If the data and application code are very intertwined (like…

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Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Post by dav1app »

On my last job, a new manager called me for a meeting on Friday 4PM. I spent the whole month on an extremely stressful project.

The meeting was about an app that integrates credit card payments, billets and bank account on a terminal that is going to be available to the general public.

The deadline? 11PM of the same day. Final version. From 0 to 100% in 6 hours.

I said that it was impossible. He said that I was incapable.

I remember coming back home with a feeling that I was incompetent, even with my 11 years of experience with JavaScript. I didn't sleep that night, trying to build it even with delay.

Saturday morning I had a burnout. I was afraid to lose my job because I sustain my family. I thought throwing myself from my apartment window. That was one of the worst days in my life.

I got fired on Monday morning.

Got another job on the same day. Almost twice the salary.I told them that I need a little time to cleanup my mind and they gave 2 weeks to recover from that situation.

I'm happy now.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Post by reificator »

brandmeyer wrote: post #215
rjplatte wrote: post #114

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I'm in a small city, where not much work is available. I need to pad my resume a little more to make the work I do more attractive, but the reality is that LAMP devs aren't in high demand near me. I apply to several jobs daily, but not much is around. I'd appreciate pointers on how to improve my prospects, but the last place I interviewed was a seedy adult entertainment company, and I wouldn't have taken an offer if…

> I need to pad my resume a little more to make the work I do more attractive A word of caution: One of my objectives as an interviewer is to drill into a candiate's resume to see if they actually did what they said they did. Its OK to talk up your accomplishments. But don't claim expertise in language X or technology Y unless you are prepared to answer some questions about it.

Taken out of context, I agree with you.

But this conversation has been about them saying they need to learn more before they can get a new job, and me replying that they shouldn't use that as an excuse to procrastinate. Thus the `need to pad my resume` comment.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Post by mikorym »

PeterStuer wrote: post #397

Side note: Over here employers must give you a notice of termination, the length of which depends on how long you worked for the company. For employees with over a decade of loyalty, this period can be a year or more. The intent is that a worker can get enough time to find a new employment. The regulation has a perverse effect. As an employee who is on notice is generally no longer trusted to prioritise the company's…

If you say that it fails in practice, is that your opinion or is that a general opinion? Presumably, in some cases the regulation that you mention works the way it was intended?

I wouldn't mind not working in the notice period; it would be a plus for me. The other question is also of course: What kind of a law should supercede such a law?

I am not saying I disagree with you or anything like that, but what I am saying is that developing countries (for example) usually have concrete problems that make some scenarios around regulation in developed countries look somehow immaterial or even amusing.

By the way, newer labour regulation in South Africa are also causing problems. Our particular problem is that you don't want to hire people anyway; you would rather downscale. If you hire someone who turns out to be a incapable employee, you have a harder time letting them go. This disincentivises "giving someone a chance" with an uncertain ability or a unusual background.

But we have >60% youth unemployment (I think that is defined as aged 18–35) and that overrides most arguments or high level laws—there are simply more pressing matters at hand.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Post by reificator »

AlexCoventry wrote: post #236
reificator wrote: post #115

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> What's are the arguments against version control here (if any)? * I don't understand it * You're overcomplicating things * We're not using any of that free shit here * It doesn't say Microsoft or IBM * The last guy we hired that tried to use it was smarter than I was so anyone else who tries is a threat to my leadership. (because everyone knows you can only manage people who have a strict subset of your own knowled…

* Someone used git to publish a HIPAA violation on github.

If HIPAA is a concern host your own server.

If you can't trust your employees to adhere to HIPAA or other mandatory regulations, you need better employees.

If your source code contains personal information, usernames, passwords, etc that should not be exposed to the public, you need to address that immediately regardless of any irrational stances on version control.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Post by i_am_nomad »

kraig911 wrote: post #233

Working on 20+ years of bandaids on an MFC C++ ERP Application with no documentation and some crazy ass shit going on. The goal make it a 'web app'... The corporate office is constantly waging political fights between management. We can't get anything done. Stymied.

This gets my vote for worst technical situation.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Post by mjrbrennan »

dav1app wrote: post #403

On my last job, a new manager called me for a meeting on Friday 4PM. I spent the whole month on an extremely stressful project. The meeting was about an app that integrates credit card payments, billets and bank account on a terminal that is going to be available to the general public. The deadline? 11PM of the same day. Final version. From 0 to 100% in 6 hours. I said that it was impossible. He said that I was incap…

What an absolute joke. I suppose that just meant the new manager wanted you gone. Glad you got out of there and into a better place.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Post by davedx »

dav1app wrote: post #403

On my last job, a new manager called me for a meeting on Friday 4PM. I spent the whole month on an extremely stressful project. The meeting was about an app that integrates credit card payments, billets and bank account on a terminal that is going to be available to the general public. The deadline? 11PM of the same day. Final version. From 0 to 100% in 6 hours. I said that it was impossible. He said that I was incap…

Sorry to hear you went through that and glad to hear you made it through. Wish you all the best.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Post by esquire_900 »

throwaway58129 wrote: post #64

I didn't know this format was a thing and am so very excited to discover it. I hope you folks enjoy reading horror stories. I got a job as a Software Engineer in my current company 4.5 years ago; friend-of-a-friend sort of thing. The company had an apparently disastrous piece of software that was their main LOB. They had gone through pretty much every local consulting agency - at least once, on a few occasions they h…

Thanks for your briljant story, enjoyed every sentence (it's very well written).
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