Live data from Hacker News

Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

netblocks.org

101–110 of 325 posts

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

#102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Imagine internet beyond the grasp of control freak governments Radio jammers. There are very few technological solutions to political problems.

Deploying and maintaining radio jamming devices is _way_ more difficult and expensive than telling an ISP to shut down service.

Depends on the frequencies and types of antennas used. Doesn't take much to disrupt a radio-based service (people do this by accident, that's why RF regulations exist everywhere). It's not that much of an expense for a government to set up a few antennas and make them put out half a megawatt of noise each.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

#103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Imagine internet beyond the grasp of control freak governments Radio jammers. There are very few technological solutions to political problems.

Deploying and maintaining radio jamming devices is _way_ more difficult and expensive than telling an ISP to shut down service.

Nobody needs to jam anything, a starlink cpe needs to transmit. Try to operate one in xinjiang province, for instance, men with portable spectrum analyzers and guns will come to take it away and arrest you.

With a horn antenna tuned to the right band and a portable spectrum analyzer, finding a starlink, kuiper or oneweb cpe will not be technically difficult.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

#104
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, didn't America wage a war to install a pro-American government in Iraq? Are they somehow pro-American and pro-Iran at the same time, or did they switch alliances while nobody in the west was paying attention?

The initial government was pro-American, but the consequence of pushing a country to have democratic elections is that they sometimes elect people that you don't like. When you want a country to be free and democratic, you can't also tell them who to elect. You have to choose one or the other. The United States has often chosen the latter while pretending to want the former, but at least with Iraq they seem to be mos…

But the people are now protesting the Iranian favoring government?

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deploying and maintaining radio jamming devices is _way_ more difficult and expensive than telling an ISP to shut down service.

Depends on the frequencies and types of antennas used. Doesn't take much to disrupt a radio-based service (people do this by accident, that's why RF regulations exist everywhere). It's not that much of an expense for a government to set up a few antennas and make them put out half a megawatt of noise each.

sure, but they have to have the hardware for that ready to go, and they have to get people deploy each site and prevent it from being vandalized or disabled

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

#106
post #91
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And prosecuting people with the relevant transceivers.

Then Iraq would have to make it illegal to own this sort of internet connection. A country like North Korea could do that, but not a country like Iraq or Cameroon that has some degree of normal freedom but intermittently shuts off the internet.

A country willing and easily able to shut down the Internet is also perfectly able to temporarily limit or ban civilian use of a frequency range.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

#107
post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, though I wasn't questioning the way you put it. Why "freedom"? Is it the name of a political party?

Hahaha are you serious? the government and all the political parties involved wew installed and formed by the US as a "freedom" after Saddam.

It’s still a valid question, it could easily be a party as well. I’m sure everyone is aware of the post Saddam situation in Iraq.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

#108
There will continue to be unrest in Iraq until an all-Shiite government is in control.

At the time of Gulf War II under W, the population was about 20% Sunni, 20% Kurdish, and 60% Shiite. So if you disarm the minority ruling Sunni establishment and instead pledge to install a democracy, a Shiite government is the logical conclusion.

Since realizing their mistake, the US has attempted to patch together some multi-religious, multi-ethnic government, but these are all destined to failure. The Kurds want to be left to their own devices, the majority Shiites want to rule the south of the country with most of the oil, and they want the Sunnis left out of power in the deserts to the West.

George HW, being smarter than George W, pulled his punches, left Saddam in power, and left him with helicopters to kill enough Shiites to prevent a successful rebellion of the "marsh Arabs", as they were called in news reports back then.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

#109
post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, though I wasn't questioning the way you put it. Why "freedom"? Is it the name of a political party?

Hahaha are you serious? the government and all the political parties involved wew installed and formed by the US as a "freedom" after Saddam.

GP is asking for clarification about the word "freedom" - whether it refers to an official name of the ruling party, or is a way people call it, or what.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

#110
post #83
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine how difficult it must be to drive through a neighborhood, and mark off anyone with a satellite dish on their roof as a political criminal. Hint: Not very. Also, how exactly do you plan to pay your bills to your ISP, when their service is illegal in your country?

I bet half of houses in my neighborhood has a TV dish. If it will be possible to make Starlink dishes visually indistinguishable from those, the police will have a slightly harder time. Slightly, because detecting radio transmission doesn't seem hard either.

Transmissions from ground to orbit tend to be highly directional (it's why satellite TV/internet typically uses dishes instead of ordinary antennae). Detection from the ground would be pretty difficult, given that most (ideally all, but there's probably at least some leakage) of the signal will never reach anything else on the ground (for the same reason you typically can't see the beam of light from a flashlight or laser pointer unless it reflects off dust or fog or some other particulate in the air).

The most reliable way to detect ground-to-space transmitters would be with aircraft, since those will have a much easier time crossing paths with the signal (and thus actually being able to see it).

Post reply on HN