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Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

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Starlink can’t come soon enough. Imagine internet beyond the grasp of control freak governments

A Starlink dish is a transmitter, which is a beacon that says "come arrest me!" or "drop bomb here."

Seriously though: as bad as Trump is, I still think Bush II was by far the worst president of the past 100 years. Trump would have to do something much worse than he's already done to match Bush's accomplishments.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

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post #23

Iraqi here (But I live in Turkey), protests were raging yesterday and today, first social media was taken down now the whole internet from mid (Baghdad) to the rest of the south of the country Here is a local service monitor for all major ISPs in Iraq: http://akonet.info This is the usual procedure by the "freedom" government they do this every time, the only issue is this time the protestors are not carrying any fla…

> This is the usual procedure by the freedom government The "freedom" government blocks the internet to censor people? I find that somewhat ironic... (I presume that's the name of the party in power or something. It sure doesn't seem like it's a description of their behavior.)

I put quotation marks around the "freedom" looks better now? xD

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

#74
post #55

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Wait, didn't America wage a war to install a pro-American government in Iraq? Are they somehow pro-American and pro-Iran at the same time, or did they switch alliances while nobody in the west was paying attention?

The Iraqi elections are democratic (somewhat? I don’t know the level of Iranian influence) and not controlled by the USA.

"Democratic" is a duplicitous, ambiguous word:

- to the people, it means a government that is less corrupt and more accountable to do the people's work; a semi-meritocracy.

- in diplomatic circles, it means whatever Americans and their rich owner-class want. There aren't very many democratic countries allowed; they're usually small and don't have a resource curse.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

#77

Well mission accomplished .. I guess. A great documentary if you haven't seen it is "Iraq: No End in Sight." It's pretty clear that the completely failed (non-existent) reconstruction efforts of the Bush administration would lead eventually to a failed state. The same thing is happening in Libya after the Obama era bombings. These places weren't democratic paradises before or anything; I'm not saying that. They had c…

All warfare actions conducted by the United States are excuses for agencies to spend money, and the money goes to corporations that are contolled by politically connected individuals. The dividends from the government consumption of these items enrich the people who are giving the orders to launch the missiles.

It is beyond disheartening that innocent people die because of this. I would rather just pay the money, if I must, and let the warheads rust in peace.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

#78
post #61

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Not to be too cute but by relying on corporations you're trading one dictatorship for another. Im not saying an oppressive government is the same as Comcast. Im just making the point that neither entity is accountabile to the people they 'serve.'

No one is wholly trustworthy. That's why every additional option is a good option.

> That's why every additional option is a good option.

Without the "but verify" part of trust, every additional option is just another name for the same thing

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

#79

Starlink can’t come soon enough. Imagine internet beyond the grasp of control freak governments

> Imagine internet beyond the grasp of control freak governments Radio jammers. There are very few technological solutions to political problems.

And prosecuting people with the relevant transceivers.

Re: Iraq blocks Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, and Instagram, shuts down internet

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post #55
post #38

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Because the government is backed by Iran (puppet) and it's fully corrupt?

Wait, didn't America wage a war to install a pro-American government in Iraq? Are they somehow pro-American and pro-Iran at the same time, or did they switch alliances while nobody in the west was paying attention?

The initial government was pro-American, but the consequence of pushing a country to have democratic elections is that they sometimes elect people that you don't like.

When you want a country to be free and democratic, you can't also tell them who to elect. You have to choose one or the other. The United States has often chosen the latter while pretending to want the former, but at least with Iraq they seem to be mostly hands off (in recent years).

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