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Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Seems like China would have an incentive to get the other IP from Airbus's suppliers to make their own competitor.

Sure. Anyone who is in business has an incentive to get the other guy's secrets...

Unless you are truly innovating, then you don't care what the other guy is doing. Spying is only good for keeping up.

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Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

That’s quite an extrapolation from China’s supposedly lack of a Boeing/Airbus competitor. Does the Comac C919 not count?

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I know the Chinese government has made a concerted effort to steal IP. Still I also find the descriptions of Chinese culture, and Asian culture in general, that demean it as imitative and incapable of creative thought not as rational descriptions of the world, but instead bizarre holdovers of old racist ideologies repackaged in more palatable contemporary business-lingo.

What other Asian countries in the present day are frequently accused of stealing IP? I don't get how you're arriving at it being a broadly Asian thing, when it's quite specifically a Chinese phenomenon. Conflating China to mean "all Asians" is pretty racist in and of itself.

https://archive.fortune.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archiv...

Just a replay of history with the country name replaced.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

#134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. Anyone who is in business has an incentive to get the other guy's secrets...

Unless you are truly innovating, then you don't care what the other guy is doing. Spying is only good for keeping up.

What if the other guy is also innovating? What about what they plan to do next?

Let's be honest here. Everyone has an incentive to gain insight into what everyone else is doing.

Everyone is spying on everyone else.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

#135

Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

Jack Ma was an English teacher and does not even know how to use keyboards. You expect him to know what Machine Learning algorithms do?

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

#136

Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

> Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China

https://qz.com/1497137/boeings-china-plant-delivers-first-je...

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

#137

Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

> Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China https://qz.com/1497137/boeings-china-plant-delivers-first-je...

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Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Other comments here incorrectly pointing out that Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China - they do. And why wouldn't they, it's obviously much cheaper to manufacture there given material and labor costs. Obviously they don't manufacture highly sensitive military aircraft in China, but commercial aircraft, sure why not. What they don't do is the design, testing, and certification in China. This is the real IP -…

> it needs to work much more closely with the FAA

Some would argue that working too closely with the FAA is the problem.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

#139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you are truly innovating, then you don't care what the other guy is doing. Spying is only good for keeping up.

What if the other guy is also innovating? What about what they plan to do next? Let's be honest here. Everyone has an incentive to gain insight into what everyone else is doing. Everyone is spying on everyone else.

So do you think DEC was spying on Intel during the Alpha days? Whatever they could’ve learned wouldn’t be worth the effort.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

#140
Boeing has a new safety scandal: https://komonews.com/news/local/exclusive-unexpected-crackin...

The US is accusing the EU of illegally subsidising Airbus, while the EU is accusing the US of illegally subsidising Boeing. The conflict has reached the WTO. Now the US is threatening "to impose tariffs of up to 100% on European exports" - https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/27/huge-trade-tariffs-on-europe...

Tell me again how the first suspect that comes to mind in a case of systematic attacks on Airbus suppliers is... China.

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