Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers • Hacker News Board

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by GordonS » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 6:06 PM UTC

yumraj wrote: post #15

joaomacp wrote: post #7

Out of curiosity: why is China not mentioned in the article's title, when the first sentence states a "Chinese state-sponsored hacking operation"?

These days state-sponsored has become a euphemism for Chinese .

It depends on who the boogeyman de jour is.

It was North Korea for a while, with every major hack blamed on them, then it was Russia, and now it's China - lo and behold, they get the blame for every major hack.

Now, I'm not saying it wasn't China - what I'm saying is that Western governments make it like "the body who cried wolf".

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by jcoffland » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 6:06 PM UTC

KoftaBob wrote: post #23

Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

Wow, these are some seriously racist comments.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 6:08 PM UTC

simion314 wrote: post #24

JamesSchriver wrote: post #6

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Why should people die because someone is stealing some IP "property", it is probably that in 100 years IP property will be seen similar to slavery. I won't debate IP laws here.

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Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by curiousgal » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 6:09 PM UTC

jcoffland wrote: post #32

KoftaBob wrote: post #23

Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

Wow, these are some seriously racist comments.

Welcome to HN where any China-related topic is treated with the same hostility.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by taxidump » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 6:10 PM UTC

raxxorrax wrote: post #20

My first question would be if the Chinese hacker is American looking or if he is named Boejing Wang or something like that. Jokes aside there are a huge number of mobile devices with saved credentials for exclusive business VPN access and a lot of businesses restrict access to resources based on the source of requests, which can be the corporate network of a supplier. This is often done to enable some forms of electr…

I am not following your borderline racist comment about a name. Why do you assume stolen credentials? Low hanging fruit could be the entry point, but advanced attacks are common with state actors so this is highly assumptive and brings nothing to the discussion.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by mikepurvis » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 6:10 PM UTC

notahacker wrote: post #25

KoftaBob wrote: post #23

Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

Airbus has been manufacturing in China for a while now and Boeing opened a plant more recently. China doesn't make internationally competitive aircraft because making internationally competitive aircraft is very hard.

They're way behind schedule, but they are working on it. A recent Wendover video looked at the current state of affairs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjbYloKJX7c

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by bpodgursky » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 6:11 PM UTC

jcoffland wrote: post #32

KoftaBob wrote: post #23

Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

Wow, these are some seriously racist comments.

China is a country, with a different education system, which produces different outcomes and culture.

Nobody is making any claim whatsoever about the behavior of Chinese-Americans or Chinese-Europeans. That would be racist.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by bobthepanda » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 6:11 PM UTC

joaomacp wrote: post #7

Out of curiosity: why is China not mentioned in the article's title, when the first sentence states a "Chinese state-sponsored hacking operation"?

"Airbus Suppliers Hit in State-Sponsored Attack" would imply China is 100% known to be the hacking operation, and that China was convicted of doing such a thing in a court. This is not true, and would be grounds for libel.

"Airbus Suppliers Possibly Hit in Chinese State-Sponsored Attack" is less attractive as a headline.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by KoftaBob » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 6:12 PM UTC

jcoffland wrote: post #32

KoftaBob wrote: post #23

Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

Wow, these are some seriously racist comments.

What does race have to do with any of this? I'm discussing their government's economic and academic model. That's like saying criticism of America's healthcare system is racist against whites, because that's their majority ethnic group.

If anything, it says a lot about you that you associated everything I said with their ethnicity rather than the government itself.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Post by _vertigo » Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 6:12 PM UTC

jcoffland wrote: post #32

KoftaBob wrote: post #23

Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

Wow, these are some seriously racist comments.

I'm not sure how race comes into it. We are talking about a single country, not a race. The original commenter even mentioned Japan and Korea as examples of countries that are different from China in this regard.