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Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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...what does Chinese gain from these attacks then? International infamy?

Valuable aviation intel to use for their young, but growing, airline industry.

Makes me wonder if it'd be simpler to gain this stuff the old-fashioned spy way: bribe or blackmail someone working in one of those supplier companies.

If Pierre in Toulouse is desperate to hide his affair with the Chinese girl he met a week ago in the bar...

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

These days state-sponsored has become a euphemism for Chinese .

Nah. For example Sony was hacked by North Korea. CIA was repeatedly hacked by Russia (Vault 7, director emails). And yes, every high-tech US corporation is sucked dry of secrets by China (Micron, Intel, Supermicro, Waymo, Boeing, etc.)

China wins by a huge margin.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products.

Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown.

Even their university culture practically encourages cheating in classes to pass, so you have generations of students graduating with weak understanding of the fundamentals. The US is obviously not a perfect meritocracy, but China is super far from that.

An economic model where American/European/Japanese/Korean tech is stolen and then friends of politicians are gifted CEO positions of companies that clone that stolen tech...not sustainable at all. If you want a painful example of what I'm talking about, watch the AI debate between Jack Ma and Elon Musk. It's so clear that Ma has an absolutely minuscule understanding of the AI landscape.

When robotic manufacturing eventually becomes cheaper and faster than manufacturing in China, meaning they'll no longer have IP to steal, they are in huge trouble.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

Airbus has been manufacturing in China for a while now and Boeing opened a plant more recently.

China doesn't make internationally competitive aircraft because making internationally competitive aircraft is very hard.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

Airbus has been manufacturing in China for a while now and Boeing opened a plant more recently. China doesn't make internationally competitive aircraft because making internationally competitive aircraft is very hard.

"Asked about the possibility of technology transfer agreements between Boeing and COMAC, Bruns stressed that the purpose of the plant was for installing seats, painting vehicles, and completing the planes’ final delivery.

“That’s only a part of what we do in the production of airplanes,” he said."

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

Confirmation biais at its finest.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

Yes exactly, China is mostly imitative and their culture and systems makes it so that they cannot innovate on any scale. Their current accomplishments are built on the basis of theft and when once we fix our security they will fall even further behind than they already are.

Re: Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers

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Interesting how Boeing and Airbus don't manufacture in China, and coincidentally China hasn't been able to produce any viable competitor to those products. Goes to show that without easy access to product blueprints/IP at the factories, China is very slow to actually innovate on their own. Hence why I feel the "China will outpace everyone in tech and take over the world" is super overblown. Even their university cult…

Airbus does have final assembly lines in china. I guess they have no access to blueprint of components
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