I've no business commenting on this as I haven't ever suffered a similar sort of trauma, you could argue. However I did start reading this note and found myself strongly flustered at this part: I thought that if I got into to a good college, or a good grad school, or lost weight, or went to the gym nearly every day for a year, or created programs that millions of people used, or spent a summer or California or New Yo…
RIP Bill Zeller
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Re: RIP Bill Zeller
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
While reading the suicide note, and the 2 threads on this, i could not help wondering many many times how much it would have helped Bill had he read the Power of Now. One problem i notice is that people who are stuck in a problem, keep trying the same solution for decades even though its not worked. We need to look at our problem from other angles and be open to new solutions.
That's exactly why depression is so hard to shake. You beat yourself up repeatedly without even knowing it and wonder why the heck you can't just snap out of it. Sometimes I wonder how my counselor deals with telling me the same thing again and again for months. And then I sign her check :) Seems like this is a book worth checking out, thanks!
> "I will never know what uncontimated intimacy is like. I will never have an exclusive bond with someone, someone who can be the recipient of all the love I have to give."
So much of what he talks of, even i have suffered _without_ having been sexually abused. He did not realize that many feeling/thoughts he had, come and go in all humans, if they come to his mind. It's fine to just ignore them like all the dust that flies about us.
Please also check out the youtubes of one Mooji. They have greatly deepened my practice.
Re: RIP Bill Zeller
#143This might be a good time to mention that we are looking for volunteers for http://CompassionPit.com/ . It was created by people who have struggled with depression for most of their life. The other day someone commented about it, "I used CompassionPit for the first time this week. I really like the idea of it. Reminds me of when I reached out to an online videogame friend when I was 12 years old when I was super depr…
I'm sorry, but I think that it's a terrible idea. If it ever gets popular, it will get swamped by trolls from Something Awful, 4Chan, and other cesspools. The last thing you need is for someone to go looking for help and have someone go "LOL KILL YOURSELF." Followed by rude language.
Re: RIP Bill Zeller
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
You assume that he was able to apply logic to his emotional sensibilities. Because of what happened to him, this could never be the case. The darkness, as he called it, enveloped his reason. One of a host of horrific and sad consequences of his suffering.
Because of what happened to him, this could never be the case. No, not because of what happened to him, because almost nobody thinks that way in our society so there's no reason why he would. Is there anything in your life which hurts to think about? Have you ever dedicated yourself to working out why it hurts and how to stop it hurting, or do you continually avoid thinking about it? I'm guessing that there is, and t…
And I do assume that it's fixable because, at one point, I was not bothered or unhappy or depressed. So I assume that whatever it is that's upsetting me, I can find out the cause, fix it, and return to being ok.
Re: RIP Bill Zeller
#145Re: RIP Bill Zeller
#146I think he should have joined doctors without borders, peace corps or whatever it is called, or one of those Christian mission (even though he had a problem with Christians) . He may have found peace in helping those who suffered more then him
Do you really think most of the people doctors without borders helped suffered as much as he did?