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Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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Post by weaksauce » Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 5:00 PM UTC

dottrap wrote: post #273

mehrdadn wrote: post #250

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I mean, maybe to you it's a placebo effect, but I know I can at least smell the chlorine in my tap water... which I suppose isn't strictly "taste" but basically the same for the point of the discussion.

A lot of bottled water comes from municipal water plants (aka tap water). That Penn & Teller YouTube link even has a section showing this, though you only need to go to the supermarket and look closely at the fine print of all the different brands of bottle water. You'll quickly find a lot are tap water.

yes a lot use tap water but they almost all invariable will go through a RO system and ozination and/or uv with some minerals added back in at the end for taste. the RO water with minerals tastes better to me than a natural spring water without that treatment. (used to work in water purification for a spell)

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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Post by linuxftw » Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 5:03 PM UTC

cortesoft wrote: post #330

jagannathtech wrote: post #323

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That's just pedantic. It is implied that the issue is 'synthetic chemicals'

That is still an overly broad category to be worried about in general... just because something is synthetic doesn't mean it is more or less dangerous than a non-synthetic thing.

Non-naturally occurring chemicals, or at least chemicals that we weren't traditionally exposed to in great abundance. Like laundry detergent and conventional shampoo. Those are probably terrible for the environment. When we ban one, companies just create another one.

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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Post by bawana » Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 5:52 PM UTC

Does it matter? Do our bodies absorb the stuff? Millions of years primates have been scrounging in the dirt for food. Crystals, metals and organics have been running through our gut for millenia. I am more concerned with absorbed uncured plastic monomer.

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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Post by earth_walker » Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 5:57 PM UTC

aledalgrande wrote: post #136

thisisnico wrote: post #88

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Living in Windsor, Ontario, Canada, I can confirm that our water is extremely clean and good to drink. Additionally our city was rated one of the best tasting tap waters for all of Ontario, cities literally compete for quality water. Contrast that to Flint michigan across the river from me.

Dude not a fair comparison, here in Canada there's probably the best tap water in the world ;)

Unless you live up North or on a reservation...

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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Post by sdfmmkmsdfmk » Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 5:59 PM UTC

nabla9 wrote: post #322

sdfmmkmsdfmk wrote: post #314

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It shouldn't be a human right. It doesn't make sense. TO say it is a human right would mean if somebody would build a hut in the desert, the world would have to build a water pipeline for them. That would be very ineffective. I only know about Nestle, there often is the story about them supposedly depleting water in dry regions (I think Afghanistan or Pakistan). But if you look it up, they take the water from a very…

> TO say it is a human right would mean if somebody would build a hut in the desert, You use the most idiotic interpretation you can imagine and then stating it as a fact. I'm sure that you are not doing this in bad faith, but your thinking is missing basic common sense that cripples you ability to understand society. Human right to water and sanitation (HRWS) is very reasonable right. It means that HRWS rules over o…

The quotation is from a movie that literally shows people living in a desert like environment, implying they should be given water. It's not my idiotic interpretation, it is what the quotation refers to.

They should move somewhere where they can get water. UN may pay for it or whatever. But to show people in some rotten place and complain that they don't get their human right to water makes no sense.

Also, the point of finding "most idiotic interpretations" is to make it obvious if something makes no sense. You are just not used to logical thinking (here, finding trivial counter examples).

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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Post by lucb1e » Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 6:03 PM UTC

e12e wrote: post #338

lucb1e wrote: post #332

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Well, the problem would solve itself. And that's not actually a joke. A book from a very popular author (no name because spoiler) creates a world where this is a reality. The movie changed the ending and thereby the whole book (I'm still pissed), but the book has this, and having a third of the world population be infertile for a generation might help us quite a bit. When the deed is already done by a mad scientist,…

> A book from a very popular author (no name because spoiler) The author's name is a spoiler? Are you talking about P. D. James' The Children of Men?

> The author's name is a spoiler?

Yeah because it would spoil the book. By mentioning the book nor the author, you don't realize that you know the spoiler until you've already read 90% of the book.

In case someone does want to know, in rot13: vasreab ol qna oebja

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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Post by Xylakant » Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 6:13 PM UTC

cakemuncher wrote: post #350

Xylakant wrote: post #335

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> It is true though that for whatever reason that I just cannot comprehend the majority of water sold in bottles in this country (Germany) is carbonated. When I was a kid, my parents would only buy carbonated water. Still water was available from the tap. Today, I stopped buying even that, I can carbonate my water myself. As to why we buy so much bottled water: Marketing. Some waters have a distinct taste, but at lea…

How do you carbonate water yourself?

I use one of those https://www.amazon.de/ISI-Edelstahl-Schwarz-8-5-31-5/dp/B011..., but others exist, for example sodastream. I prefer mine because it doesn’t require some apparatus that take space on the kitchen counter.

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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Post by e12e » Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 6:44 PM UTC

lucb1e wrote: post #356

e12e wrote: post #338

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> A book from a very popular author (no name because spoiler) The author's name is a spoiler? Are you talking about P. D. James' The Children of Men?

> The author's name is a spoiler? Yeah because it would spoil the book. By mentioning the book nor the author, you don't realize that you know the spoiler until you've already read 90% of the book. In case someone does want to know, in rot13: vasreab ol qna oebja

How would you buy or borrow this book without knowing the name?

Ed: having rot13 that, I still don't see how it's a spoiler...

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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Post by detaro » Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 6:48 PM UTC

hu3 wrote: post #214

JohnFen wrote: post #209

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I know lots of people who buy it because they believe it's higher quality. They don't care about the container.

That would be me and my family over the last decade. We buy bottled water hoping it would benefit our health over tap water.

Have you checked if there's anything wrong with your tap water? One-time water test is probably cheap compared to years of buying bottled.

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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Post by lukaa » Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 7:42 PM UTC

crashbunny wrote: post #329

lukaa wrote: post #131

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For practical purpose does it matter? It detects non-water particles(pollution) in twice higher ratio than in tap water and plastic bottled water is sold as way purer than tap water with 1000 time higher price. Basically it's scam.

Does it matter if the non-water particles aren't plastic? It might, if we evolved while drinking water with the same non-water particles then they should be fine. If the non-water particles only turned up recently, like microplastics, then whether it will affect our health is unknown until some studies are done.

Common particles (those with which we evolved) are easily identifiable so no it's not them. But like I said it clearly shows it's not purer or higher quality than tap water and is sold like that with enormous price compared to tap water. It's called scam.