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Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018)

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Post by yamato2022 »

asabjorn wrote: post #33

There is much beauty and wonder in the interplay between as well as within the genders. However, men are not imperfect women that would be improved if we adopted the other genders mannerisms. We both need to be open to listening to each other when providing the loving support that we want and need. This article seem to be written by an ideologically inclined woman. A woman trying to understand the men in her life bet…

These two books are Christian books.

If you’re looking for a secular and engaging book to read with your partner consider the book “Hold Me Tight.” Sorry no link but you may Google it.

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Post by asabjorn »

cthalupa wrote: post #54
asabjorn wrote: post #33

There is much beauty and wonder in the interplay between as well as within the genders. However, men are not imperfect women that would be improved if we adopted the other genders mannerisms. We both need to be open to listening to each other when providing the loving support that we want and need. This article seem to be written by an ideologically inclined woman. A woman trying to understand the men in her life bet…

Please disclaim when you are linking material that has a religious bent. Both of these books appear to be based upon the Christian belief system and as such might not be of any interest to someone with a different (or nonexistent) belief system.

I thought the book was one of the better ones I've read on the topic, so I recommended it. It is not a spiritual book.

I likewise would recommend reading "Islamic Patterns: An analytical and cosmological approach" when approaching geometry.

Either the book is good or not in getting you to understand something you don't currently understand. I trust the reader to be able to make their own judgements, especially in this case where you can read the book for the opposite gender to see if they are full of bullshit.

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Post by jalgos_eminator »

monksy wrote: post #23

I think we're starting to hit a critical moment with this. As men we have an unbelievable amount of expectation on our reactions, communication, behavior, past behavior, and others behavior. (Their friends and their partners) On top of all of this: Men spaces have been mostly eliminated.

What were the men's spaces before? Legitimate question as I may be too young to have known them.

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Post by adamsea »

asabjorn wrote: post #33

There is much beauty and wonder in the interplay between as well as within the genders. However, men are not imperfect women that would be improved if we adopted the other genders mannerisms. We both need to be open to listening to each other when providing the loving support that we want and need. This article seem to be written by an ideologically inclined woman. A woman trying to understand the men in her life bet…

"This article seem to be written by an ideologically inclined woman."

This comment seems to be written by an ideologically inclined man.

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Post by adamsea »

pubby wrote: post #48

Female sexual attraction favors secure men who don't talk feelings. This results in men feeling unable to express their emotions around their significant other. On the other side, male sexuality selects based on looks more than anything. Feminism calls the latter shallow and toxic, but truthfully both should have that label. Neither is serving society or evolution well anymore. But what can we do? Sexual attraction i…

"Female sexual attraction favors secure men who don't talk feelings. This results in men feeling unable to express their emotions around their significant other."

Sources?

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Post by adamsea »

sabarn01 wrote: post #19

Whats wrong with stoicism. Feelings are fleeting in general didn't lead me to positive places. I think we should put a high value on people that can handle their own problems.

Stoicism is different from denial. I think denial is more what the article is about, since it talks about the higher suicide rate of men, etc.

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Post by lacampbell »

sabarn01 wrote: post #19

Whats wrong with stoicism. Feelings are fleeting in general didn't lead me to positive places. I think we should put a high value on people that can handle their own problems.

Sharing your feelings doesn't really mean breaking down crying when anything remotely bad happens to you in life. It can just be talking frankly and openly about challenges you face in your life. Is that at odds with being stoic?

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Post by [deleted] »

jalgos_eminator wrote: post #73
monksy wrote: post #23

I think we're starting to hit a critical moment with this. As men we have an unbelievable amount of expectation on our reactions, communication, behavior, past behavior, and others behavior. (Their friends and their partners) On top of all of this: Men spaces have been mostly eliminated.

What were the men's spaces before? Legitimate question as I may be too young to have known them.

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Post by adamsea »

monksy wrote: post #23

I think we're starting to hit a critical moment with this. As men we have an unbelievable amount of expectation on our reactions, communication, behavior, past behavior, and others behavior. (Their friends and their partners) On top of all of this: Men spaces have been mostly eliminated.

Not sure how open those men's spaces of the past. would have been to more emotional openness. Could see it going either way.
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