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Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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Gonna take a wild guess that anyone reading HN probably hasn't used IE in the last decade aside from the purpose of downloading another browser

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

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Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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Edge is no longer a purely Microsoft product, it's now based on Chrome(Chromium) [0], or will be soon, I haven't followed this closely. https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/12/06/micro...

thats not quite true. Edge BETA is the chromium based. Edge is still wholly MS

Sure, which is why I added "...or will be soon, I haven't followed this closely".

For people who have to deal with browsers for their business this is important to know what's coming in the near future.

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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post #53
post #39

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It sounds like you should try to upgrade to a modern employer.

That will solve his problem, but there are millions of employees out there relying on the same old stack and it isn't going to be replaced in the next few years, despite the failing support and the better alternatives. Replacing all those systems will take time and money in large quantities.

The problem will be solved very soon, the new Chromium based Edge has an IE mode.

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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post #53

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That will solve his problem, but there are millions of employees out there relying on the same old stack and it isn't going to be replaced in the next few years, despite the failing support and the better alternatives. Replacing all those systems will take time and money in large quantities.

The problem will be solved very soon, the new Chromium based Edge has an IE mode.

Interesting. I wonder how compatible the mode will be and with which version. Going to research it, thanks for pointing this out!

edit: oh well, nothing is solved: When these web sites are viewed in Microsoft Edge (Chromium), a full instance of Internet Explorer 11 is running and rendered within the tab.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/devtools-gui...

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

#85
post #84

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The problem will be solved very soon, the new Chromium based Edge has an IE mode.

Interesting. I wonder how compatible the mode will be and with which version. Going to research it, thanks for pointing this out! edit: oh well, nothing is solved: When these web sites are viewed in Microsoft Edge (Chromium), a full instance of Internet Explorer 11 is running and rendered within the tab. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/devtools-gui...

How does that not solve the problem that you detailed? You said replacing all those systems will take time and money. Edge is coming to every supported platform, so if you don't want to update your applications, you don't have to. I'm not sure what else you want Microsoft to do here. They can't make you update your software, only provide a high level of backwards compatibility for those that can't justify the expense on their side. MS is carrying your financial burden by building this out and supporting it. You're free to do what you please, even complain about it, but you aren't going to find better support than that.

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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Interesting. I wonder how compatible the mode will be and with which version. Going to research it, thanks for pointing this out! edit: oh well, nothing is solved: When these web sites are viewed in Microsoft Edge (Chromium), a full instance of Internet Explorer 11 is running and rendered within the tab. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/devtools-gui...

How does that not solve the problem that you detailed? You said replacing all those systems will take time and money. Edge is coming to every supported platform, so if you don't want to update your applications, you don't have to. I'm not sure what else you want Microsoft to do here. They can't make you update your software, only provide a high level of backwards compatibility for those that can't justify the expense…

I don't know why you got the impression that I'm somehow bashing Microsoft here. I don't think Microsoft have much better approach, having decide to move on from IE and their previous generation stacks.

Anyway, running IE within Edge doesn't solve the problem of users wishing to ditch IE but can't because of compatabilty - it is still running IE process. I'm not sure if this is the same thing, but it seems to be similar to the IE tab extension for Chrome, which exist for years. It just covers instance an IE instance within a Chrome tab. It is better from user perspective comparing to running IE in separate application but from security perspective it is just the same.

Edit: It still not clear how much will actually work, and the support is actually worse than I thought. currently only IE 11 fully support SharePoint, even in the latest 2019 SharePoint version.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sharepoint/install/browser-...

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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post #18

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Shinsei bank in Japan requires IE (not edge) to use online banking. Macs aren't supported.

That is not true, I am able to use Shinsei on Mac with Firefox just fine.

Shinsei corporate account or personal? Different systems

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

#88
post #86

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How does that not solve the problem that you detailed? You said replacing all those systems will take time and money. Edge is coming to every supported platform, so if you don't want to update your applications, you don't have to. I'm not sure what else you want Microsoft to do here. They can't make you update your software, only provide a high level of backwards compatibility for those that can't justify the expense…

I don't know why you got the impression that I'm somehow bashing Microsoft here. I don't think Microsoft have much better approach, having decide to move on from IE and their previous generation stacks. Anyway, running IE within Edge doesn't solve the problem of users wishing to ditch IE but can't because of compatabilty - it is still running IE process. I'm not sure if this is the same thing, but it seems to be simi…

I didn't say you were bashing MS, nor did I suggest it. I just don't know what else you want them to do. They absolutely are bending over backwards so that organizations can't continue to use those ancient webapps. There's nothing else they could do from their side. They're going to have the burden of making sure that IE tabs continue to function and remain secure.
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