No chrome, no ie.. What is left is safari and firefox
Vivaldi, Palemoon, Brave If you don't like any Chromium browser then Palemoon
Palemoon has sub-par font rendering, at least on Win 7
Stop Using Internet Explorer
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#52Serbian government's digital ID system only works in IE8 (or compatibility mode in newer IE browsers). It's required to do ANY kind of work with the ID cards, including digitally signing documents, filing reports and any communication with the government. Every store or service provider, bank, anything, MUST use IE to be able to read the card (of course, if they want to use a browser -- you can always use a proprietary program and libraries to do so in a native Win32 app. )
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#53I will - just as soon as our Sharepoint installation properly supports other browsers. That ain't going to happen though, is it?
It sounds like you should try to upgrade to a modern employer.
That will solve his problem, but there are millions of employees out there relying on the same old stack and it isn't going to be replaced in the next few years, despite the failing support and the better alternatives. Replacing all those systems will take time and money in large quantities.
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#54Gonna go out on a limb here and say that anyone still using IE isn't going to be persuaded away from it by a fancy blog post.
Gonna take a wild guess that anyone reading HN probably hasn't used IE in the last decade aside from the purpose of downloading another browser
On the corporate laptop I'm currently using, IE still is (or was, until recently) the default browser with no possibility to change that setting, despite company policy that we shouldn't use IE anymore. Wrap your head around that one.
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#55Serbian government's digital ID system only works in IE8 (or compatibility mode in newer IE browsers). It's required to do ANY kind of work with the ID cards, including digitally signing documents, filing reports and any communication with the government. Every store or service provider, bank, anything, MUST use IE to be able to read the card (of course, if they want to use a browser -- you can always use a proprieta…
> Every ... bank ... MUST use IE to be able to read the card
That is not true. Raiffeisen has their own e-banking solution that works with all major browsers. It even supports macOS. It used to support Linux before, but I haven't tested since 2016 or so, so I'm not sure about that. I have been using it since 2013 or so with Firefox exclusively.
> It's required to do ANY kind of work with the ID cards, including digitally signing documents, filing reports and any communication with the government.
You can also use Firefox to submit tax reports. I have done it this year without problems. You need to use Windows, though.
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#56As a webmaster of a pure HTML + CSS static site, I can and do make sure my site still renders in Internet Explorer. Which means, of course, I need to have Internet Explorer to make sure any changes to the site design are still readable in IE.
I also have a copy of Safari for Windows to make sure my page is Safari compatible. I even have Opera 12 to make sure my pages look good with the older Presto rendering engine, as well as Lynx to make sure things look good in a text-only browser without Javascript.
There is a place for putting a full Javascript application and framework in a browser, but a basic “here is my resume and my blog which I update about once a month” page isn’t one of them.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
great big list of stuff that only fully works in IE here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sharepoint/install/browser-...
Wow, that's a lot of core features. And it sort of makes sense because it's all in ActiveX, and ActiveX is not supported by Edge. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/deploy/emie-... So an ActiveX control written in 1996 can run in Windows 10 Enterprise today via IE11. Neat... I guess.
There are quite a few other things that don't work with, such as calendar overlays - the ability to display multiple calendars on a single calendar page. LOts of other weirdnesses too.
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#58Gonna go out on a limb here and say that anyone still using IE isn't going to be persuaded away from it by a fancy blog post.
Its also the stock bowser on the dominant os any one serious about web development must support IE.
The problem is when lazy developers use short cuts and make sites that only work on IE - quite how they mange to do this I have no idea.
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#59Serbian government's digital ID system only works in IE8 (or compatibility mode in newer IE browsers). It's required to do ANY kind of work with the ID cards, including digitally signing documents, filing reports and any communication with the government. Every store or service provider, bank, anything, MUST use IE to be able to read the card (of course, if they want to use a browser -- you can always use a proprieta…
> Every ... bank ... MUST use IE to be able to read the card That is not true. Raiffeisen has their own e-banking solution that works with all major browsers. It even supports macOS. It used to support Linux before, but I haven't tested since 2016 or so, so I'm not sure about that. I have been using it since 2013 or so with Firefox exclusively. > It's required to do ANY kind of work with the ID cards, including digit…
You might have misunderstood me. You don't need IE to use the bank's services. The bank's employees have to use IE if they want to access ID card data. (though most banks use Win32 software exclusively, and don't use web apps, but Telenor Banka does, and they all use IE8).
Wherever you need to read the ID card, you cannot use anything other than IE. For example, if you have to verify identity, you cannot use Firefox to grant access to the ID card.
That's my experience at least.
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#60Gonna go out on a limb here and say that anyone still using IE isn't going to be persuaded away from it by a fancy blog post.
Gonna take a wild guess that anyone reading HN probably hasn't used IE in the last decade aside from the purpose of downloading another browser
I use IE as my standard browser my chrome and firefox are set up for different usages with ton of plugins