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Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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great big list of stuff that only fully works in IE here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sharepoint/install/browser-...

Wow, that's a lot of core features. And it sort of makes sense because it's all in ActiveX, and ActiveX is not supported by Edge. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/deploy/emie-... So an ActiveX control written in 1996 can run in Windows 10 Enterprise today via IE11. Neat... I guess.

> Enables a webpage to display a contact card and presence status for people. Integrates through client-side APIs with Office client and Skype for Business client.

It's crazy that modern sharepoint version still use ActiveX for something like this imo. I wonder if Microsoft's newer web APIs could be used to reimplinent this functionality without ActiveX

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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Gonna take a wild guess that anyone reading HN probably hasn't used IE in the last decade aside from the purpose of downloading another browser

I am gonna guess, this is not true. Some are required to use it in corporate environment.

Not only does my corporate environment only support IE, but if I change my default browser to Chrome or FF (thank I have local admin rights), then the default security policy will revert the default back to IE11 whenever I reboot.

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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Its also the stock bowser on the dominant os any one serious about web development must support IE. The problem is when lazy developers use short cuts and make sites that only work on IE - quite how they mange to do this I have no idea.

> Its also the stock bowser on the dominant os Which OS? The stock browser of Windows 10 is Edge not IE.

Oh sorry I did mean Edge

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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Wow, that's a lot of core features. And it sort of makes sense because it's all in ActiveX, and ActiveX is not supported by Edge. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/deploy/emie-... So an ActiveX control written in 1996 can run in Windows 10 Enterprise today via IE11. Neat... I guess.

> Enables a webpage to display a contact card and presence status for people. Integrates through client-side APIs with Office client and Skype for Business client. It's crazy that modern sharepoint version still use ActiveX for something like this imo. I wonder if Microsoft's newer web APIs could be used to reimplinent this functionality without ActiveX

In Microsoft Teams they do, but I find the availability status sometimes conflicts with what the Skype for business app says.

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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It sounds like you should try to upgrade to a modern employer.

That will solve his problem, but there are millions of employees out there relying on the same old stack and it isn't going to be replaced in the next few years, despite the failing support and the better alternatives. Replacing all those systems will take time and money in large quantities.

Replacing those systems will happen faster if they can't find people willing to maintain that old stack.

Re: Stop Using Internet Explorer

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That will solve his problem, but there are millions of employees out there relying on the same old stack and it isn't going to be replaced in the next few years, despite the failing support and the better alternatives. Replacing all those systems will take time and money in large quantities.

Replacing those systems will happen faster if they can't find people willing to maintain that old stack.

These old systems I see at gov and enterprise customers are rarely replaced when no one maintains them, they are held running by small miracles and large stitches. In many non-tech large organizations there are too many legacy systems for anyone to consider replacing them all. Go visit a large hospital near you and start counting how many XP machines they have as control systems and how many access applications they use to register maintenance schedules of those systems. Ever wondered about the OS version of the systems monitoring the water quality in your neighborhood?
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