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Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by thinkingemote »

Lio wrote: post #504
wongarsu wrote: post #489

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I'm not aware of any studies showing that it has no effect either. If I had to guess I would estimate a prayer to be as effective as a placebo, but to proclaim that as fact seems a bit unscientific.

There has been quite a bit of study of intercessory prayer. i.e. for people that don't know they are being prayed for. No affects have been found. > In 1872, the Victorian scientist Francis Galton made the first statistical analysis of third-party prayer. He hypothesized, partly as satire, that if prayer were effective, members of the British Royal Family would live longer than average, given that thousands prayed fo…

The wiki page contradicts your statement about "no effects".

there's been a number of studies showing lots of effects. Most studies seem to show slight positive effects from prayer, some show none and some show negative effects.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by Lio »

bartread wrote: post #471
jniedrauer wrote: post #199

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If you're in the market for a smart watch, and you're a cyclist, I'd recommend checking out Garmin. They have a massive array of sensors and record very precise data that is aggregated on Garmin Connect. It's been invaluable to me for assessing training effectiveness over time. They make Apple watches look like toys. If you want the latest and greatest, the Forerunner 945 is probably what you're looking for, but the…

NOOOOO! Do not do this. I have a Garmin Fenix 5X and it does not make the Apple Watch look like a toy. The Apple Watch integration is seamless, the Garmin Connect integration is a joke. Moreover the Fenix has a clunky user interface, and is bulky and ugly. The Apple Watch absolutely trounces the Garmin in every aspect, functional and aesthetic, except for two: 1) Water resistance: it's hard to argue with the Garmin's…

You've left ANT+ and cycling specific performance analysis off the list of things that Apple Watch can't do.

If you're not a cyclist then it doesn't matter but there's definitely lots of stuff the Garmin can do that the Apple Watch can't.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by Lio »

thinkingemote wrote: post #511
Lio wrote: post #504

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There has been quite a bit of study of intercessory prayer. i.e. for people that don't know they are being prayed for. No affects have been found. > In 1872, the Victorian scientist Francis Galton made the first statistical analysis of third-party prayer. He hypothesized, partly as satire, that if prayer were effective, members of the British Royal Family would live longer than average, given that thousands prayed fo…

The wiki page contradicts your statement about "no effects". there's been a number of studies showing lots of effects. Most studies seem to show slight positive effects from prayer, some show none and some show negative effects.

From the wikipage:

> Meta-studies of the literature in the field have been performed showing evidence only for no effect or a potentially small effect.

I'm an atheist so I take the "no effect" over the "small effect".

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by lawlorino »

Austin_Conlon wrote: post #498
lawlorino wrote: post #494

Boy I'm sure he was relieved he had his APPLE WATCH™ with him. I am sure we are all imagining right now how horrible things would be for us and our families if we were in such circumstances without an APPLE WATCH™. Good thing black friday and Christmas are coming up so I can gift all my loved ones an APPLE WATCH™ just in case, not doing so would clearly be negligent and uncaring on my part.

Why is it so bothersome that technology that helped someone has a brand?

It's not that, my problem is it's an article which is basically an advert which at the time of writing is top of the front page with +800 upvotes and full of comments talking about how great the product is. Talk about "Hacker" "News".

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Post by megous »

jjeaff wrote: post #470
dathinab wrote: post #435

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I wouldn't be to sure the Apple watch is even comparable to 1-lead ECG, simply due to the difference of how ECG is attached to you and how the Apple watch is. Through this doesn't mean the Apple watch can't be a useful addition, just don't rely on it.

I would imagine it is possible the sensor in an Apple watch is more sophisticated than a single ecg lead.

You can do only so much with a single signal.

There's a reason ECG probes are attached to multiple points on the body, and you can infer quite a bit of info from just comparing multiple signals alone, including if you have your heart flipped, for some reason. :D You'll not get that from your watch.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by mirthflat83 »

WA wrote: post #485

I bet this is a great feature (and I do have an Apple Watch), but can we please hold for a sec here? This piece reads like an Ad. Furthermore, many comments here are about "I want to see my kids grow up". Now please, calculate the odds of: - you are in a terrible accident - there is no one around you to call an ambulance - you can’t call an ambulance yourself, because you are knocked out or can’t move I think the odd…

By your logic, no one would have to buy life insurance.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by [deleted] »

mruts wrote: post #499
acqq wrote: post #488

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> I think the odds for such an event are rather low. And I guess you are writing just to the young users. There are a lot of old people living alone (in the part of the world where such watches are affordable). Falling, even in their own house, then remaining immobile and unable to call for help is a common cause of huge problems (1) (2). The specialized devices already exist too, but a lot of people don't carry them…

Well it’s clear that the watch is providing less value. If you’re already old, the value of “saving” your life isn’t that much, your probably gonna die soon anyways.

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Post by versk »

mirthflat83 wrote: post #518
WA wrote: post #485

I bet this is a great feature (and I do have an Apple Watch), but can we please hold for a sec here? This piece reads like an Ad. Furthermore, many comments here are about "I want to see my kids grow up". Now please, calculate the odds of: - you are in a terrible accident - there is no one around you to call an ambulance - you can’t call an ambulance yourself, because you are knocked out or can’t move I think the odd…

By your logic, no one would have to buy life insurance.

But your risk profile for death is extremely high.
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