Apple watch seems to be a decent device but not supporting android means it's not an option for most of us.
Samsung, Xiaomi, or Huawei will catch up on features eventually.
Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911
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Pure speculation: perhaps it wasn’t reliable enough so it got yanked?
I’d think the decision should be up to the owner of the device. Who is the company to determine acceptable functionality AFTER purchase?
Who is in a better position to know if such a feature doesn't work?
Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911
#453FTA: > As opposed to social media or GPS tracking apps, Schaeffer said the Apple Watch fall-detection feature offers extra reassurance by not relying on a person to alert first responders. We're early enough in the adoption cycle that this is an undeniable benefit. Obviously, if nobody else is around, then it's life-saving. But I do worry about the long-term ethics. What if, when such watches become common, it become…
"We're early enough in the adoption cycle that this is an undeniable benefit" Until someone gets fined for an ambulance being called on their behalf, because they dropped their watch on the floor...
Right. Only in the USA actually. Where an Ambulance costs ~2,5K for ALS and ~1,5K for BLS. The stupidity of this is crazy. I once had a bike crash in SF (dude opened the door on me) and someone called the ambulance. Not sure who. But I could walk so no use getting into the ambulance. The cop gave me a free ride down to a health clinic to get stitches. That didn't stop the city of SF sending me a bill for $400 for the ambulance. Bunch of thieves!
This problem doesn't exist in countries where there is public healthcare like in Australia, Canada and I believe most countries in Europe.
Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911
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There was a study recently that basically debunked this theory. It was done by tracking real incidents through cameras in big cities in Europe. Long story short, the more people were there the more likely that someone offers help.
A lot of countries in Europe have Duty to rescue laws ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_rescue ): "circumstance in which a party can be held liable for failing to come to the rescue of another party who could face potential injury or death without being rescued"
This, in combination with Good Samaritan Laws (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law) make it more likely that people in Europe will help out. I remember stories in China that people would avoid helping someone in lieu of being blamed for any further injury caused, they would be taking the blame.
Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911
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"We're early enough in the adoption cycle that this is an undeniable benefit" Until someone gets fined for an ambulance being called on their behalf, because they dropped their watch on the floor...
There are countries where people don't get fined for calling an ambulance due to personal financial damage. Even though misuse happens, it's minuscule compared to the benefit of general healthcare and not having to pay thousands of dollars for getting critical help.
Yap, Australia, Canada, and most EU countries.
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I think this is nothing new to worry about. Bystander effect ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect ) was relevant before Apple Watch.
The bystander effect is probably complete nonsense, there have been some recent studies that tried to replicate its findings and they found the opposite to be true.
Here in China, the bystander effect is kind of have its effects, I mean sometime in bigcities, if an old man fell off unconsciously, lots of people will pass by, maybe they feel unconfortable with that, but there are some case which the old people accuse the one who help them knocking them down, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Shoulan_v._Peng_Yu , And CCTV has broadcast the case, and it cause a big discuss on the internet, and now lots of people, would not be a Good Samaritan when similar things happen, although have a guilty conscience.
Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911
#457Earlier quoted context omitted.
"We're early enough in the adoption cycle that this is an undeniable benefit" Until someone gets fined for an ambulance being called on their behalf, because they dropped their watch on the floor...
Right. Only in the USA actually. Where an Ambulance costs ~2,5K for ALS and ~1,5K for BLS. The stupidity of this is crazy. I once had a bike crash in SF (dude opened the door on me) and someone called the ambulance. Not sure who. But I could walk so no use getting into the ambulance. The cop gave me a free ride down to a health clinic to get stitches. That didn't stop the city of SF sending me a bill for $400 for the…
"You" (plural) in the USA have managed to make healthcare the means for the richer to become richest, and paying them with your blood. It goes beyond me how politicians with lobbyists (big pharma etc) allowed this to happen, don't send them all to hell where they belong, and reclaim your lives and your health.
And the fun fact is that US citizens call socialism "evil" while you sacrifice your health and/or your livelihood over a broken leg. I got a completely different definition what "evil" is, and oh btw I'm serving capitalism in EU (so don't start crying out "socialiiiiiist!!").
Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911
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#459Earlier quoted context omitted.
The bystander effect is probably complete nonsense, there have been some recent studies that tried to replicate its findings and they found the opposite to be true.
Here in China, the bystander effect is kind of have its effects, I mean sometime in bigcities, if an old man fell off unconsciously, lots of people will pass by, maybe they feel unconfortable with that, but there are some case which the old people accuse the one who help them knocking them down, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Shoulan_v._Peng_Yu , And CCTV has broadcast the case, and it cause a big discuss on the in…
Saying that, I have seen people help others who fell down on a subway car, so it varies among defferent person.
Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911
#460FTA: > As opposed to social media or GPS tracking apps, Schaeffer said the Apple Watch fall-detection feature offers extra reassurance by not relying on a person to alert first responders. We're early enough in the adoption cycle that this is an undeniable benefit. Obviously, if nobody else is around, then it's life-saving. But I do worry about the long-term ethics. What if, when such watches become common, it become…
i'm not against gps tracking or other people tracking, i'm only against irresponsible usage of this data. that people will be tracked everywhere and these kind of features being implemented in such a connected world is unavoidable, and in reality besides the darker downsides it might have of irresponsible usage of the data, it has good potential to do very nice things for people.
the issue is not with the technology, but with people, as always. with the adoption of ipv6, iot and gps_in_everything etc. it's not a question about if the technology can be used for bad things, it's a question about if it will.
people who only believe int he darker side of this technology can easily avoid it by not participating. they should let people who willingly participate do so at their own 'peril' if that's their opinion.
privacy advocates are the new religion trying to push their views on everyone even though it's just a matter of opinion. some people love to be tracked everywhere for the benefits it can give them, other people hate it for the downsides it might have. its all a matter of opinion for users, and a question of integrity for its masters.