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Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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The watch deactivates most features and locks as soon as you take it off of your wrist. You'd need to re-enter your password to unlock it. so it is unlikely that throwing it would trigger the feature. Also from their initial demo, the fall detection uses more input than just a fast falling motion. Apparently humans fall in a specific way that the watch detects

Hopefully it is better at detecting hard falls than my series2 was at detecting the beginning of a swimming workout... I'd be driving down the road at 30 mph brushing my hair and my apple watch would ask me if I was starting a swimming workout. And I had to turn the knob to unlock to tell it no because it automatically locks you down when a swimming workout starts.

> had to

How about instead of brushing your hair and playing with your watch you concentrated on driving?

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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FTA: > As opposed to social media or GPS tracking apps, Schaeffer said the Apple Watch fall-detection feature offers extra reassurance by not relying on a person to alert first responders. We're early enough in the adoption cycle that this is an undeniable benefit. Obviously, if nobody else is around, then it's life-saving. But I do worry about the long-term ethics. What if, when such watches become common, it become…

Does the watch display "911 called" or similar.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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FTA: > As opposed to social media or GPS tracking apps, Schaeffer said the Apple Watch fall-detection feature offers extra reassurance by not relying on a person to alert first responders. We're early enough in the adoption cycle that this is an undeniable benefit. Obviously, if nobody else is around, then it's life-saving. But I do worry about the long-term ethics. What if, when such watches become common, it become…

I think this is nothing new to worry about. Bystander effect ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect ) was relevant before Apple Watch.

There was a study recently that basically debunked this theory. It was done by tracking real incidents through cameras in big cities in Europe. Long story short, the more people were there the more likely that someone offers help.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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FTA: > As opposed to social media or GPS tracking apps, Schaeffer said the Apple Watch fall-detection feature offers extra reassurance by not relying on a person to alert first responders. We're early enough in the adoption cycle that this is an undeniable benefit. Obviously, if nobody else is around, then it's life-saving. But I do worry about the long-term ethics. What if, when such watches become common, it become…

I think this is nothing new to worry about. Bystander effect ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect ) was relevant before Apple Watch.

You might want to actually read that article daliusd. The bystander effect is just hypothesis and hasn't actually been observed to my knowledge.

In the mentioned Kitty Genovese incident the numbers were inflated and while it isn't mentioned here, there actually were police reports while it was happening.

They were just ignored until it was too late.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Heart attacks are sudden and sometimes nothing could save you. My mother is a medical professional, and she told me the story about a doctor in her hospital: one morning he realized he was about to have a heart attack, called emergency services himself and left the door open; he was dead by the time the ambulance arrived, five to ten minutes later.

There was a legendary cardiologist at my medical school who predicted his own demise, took a Holter monitor home with him one night, wired himself up, went to sleep, never woke up, and left his colleagues with the 12-lead trace of his death.

> the 12-lead trace of his death

What does this mean?

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Can confirm, grandfather died from a heart attack when shoveling snow.

Mine slipped a disc while shovelling as well. The torso twisting motion is really bad if you have existing back problem.

Any time I see someone shovelling a sidewalk or driveway with something other than a sleigh shovel, I'm baffled at why they're not using a sleigh shovel.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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So long as the non-cellular version of the watch has an active bluetooth link with your phone, it will make the same callout.

What if you own the cellular version but didn't pay for a plan? Many phones will still allow 911 calls even without as paid plan.

AFAIK all phones allow 911 calls if they have cell signal even without any SIM inserted.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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I think this is nothing new to worry about. Bystander effect ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect ) was relevant before Apple Watch.

You might want to actually read that article daliusd. The bystander effect is just hypothesis and hasn't actually been observed to my knowledge. In the mentioned Kitty Genovese incident the numbers were inflated and while it isn't mentioned here, there actually were police reports while it was happening. They were just ignored until it was too late.

I think local laws also play some part in this. There have been cases where people who help the victims have been accused of having harmed the victims. If not that, they're hassled by Police and other investigators during the course of the investigation.

This is the reason why Good Samaritan law is being brought into effect across the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

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