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Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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My cousin died last week of a heart attack on the way from his house in a village south of Nuremberg to the bakery 10 minutes away to get bread for breakfast. His Apple Watch (presumably because of the fall detection) called emergency services for him and gave him time to call his wife.

Condolences from my side too. My dad suddenly died in 2011 from a heart attack. It runs in the family so I have to be vigilant. I do love hearing about these Apple Watch stories though.

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My condolences, it's always painful losing family. I too lost a cousin about six years ago due to heart failure, he had just about turned 21. I wish he'd had an Apple Watch (or similar device) at the time.

A dear colleague died of a heart attack a couple months ago. His Apple Watch didn't save him. He collapsed at work. The Apple Watch is very explicit about not being a panacea, and currently only advertises detection of a specific kind of arythmia or elevated heart rate. Note that the original comment mentioned that fall detection was probably the trigger. I'm still pretty angry at the universe about my colleague's su…

Heart attacks are sudden and sometimes nothing could save you. My mother is a medical professional, and she told me the story about a doctor in her hospital: one morning he realized he was about to have a heart attack, called emergency services himself and left the door open; he was dead by the time the ambulance arrived, five to ten minutes later.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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My condolences, it's always painful losing family. I too lost a cousin about six years ago due to heart failure, he had just about turned 21. I wish he'd had an Apple Watch (or similar device) at the time.

A dear colleague died of a heart attack a couple months ago. His Apple Watch didn't save him. He collapsed at work. The Apple Watch is very explicit about not being a panacea, and currently only advertises detection of a specific kind of arythmia or elevated heart rate. Note that the original comment mentioned that fall detection was probably the trigger. I'm still pretty angry at the universe about my colleague's su…

It doesn't just detect arrhythmia -- it also detects if you have fallen and are not moving (and will automatically call emergency services after some duration, if configured as such). More details at https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208944 if you're interested to know more.

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This is so amazing. Serious kudos to the apple watch team for this.

Apple don't get nearly enough credit for the thought and effort they put into these sorts of features. The same goes to their dedication to accessibility, which is industry-leading and honestly pretty inspiring.

Doesn't seem like outsized thought and effort given the companies size, resources, and relatively small product focus..

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Can anyone tell me if this is a standard feature in all smart watches these days, or just an Apple thing? I have the Series Zero, which is now state of the ark, so I'm not really up on what's widespread anymore.

It's common in the "sports watch" side of things from the likes of Garmin. I'm not sure how well they do for things like the elderly falling though, they're more targeted at bike crashes and the like.

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If you're in the market for a smart watch, and you're a cyclist, I'd recommend checking out Garmin. They have a massive array of sensors and record very precise data that is aggregated on Garmin Connect. It's been invaluable to me for assessing training effectiveness over time. They make Apple watches look like toys. If you want the latest and greatest, the Forerunner 945 is probably what you're looking for, but the…

I think you are missing the point here completely and utterly. Compared to what the Apple Watch can do (as mention on the post and several comments) the garmin watch may be the real toy here.

That's hardly true, the two devices have very different purposes. I couldn't run an ultramarathon (or even a shorter trail race) in an apple watch. That's before we even start talking about features. The battery would die long before I finish.

The FR945 that was released this year has far more features than the apple watch (including the emergency features). Even comparing the Apple Watch 4 to my FR935 (released in 2017), the Apple watch would be a huge step down for my purposes. That's all without mentioning the fact that I'd probably break the apple watch on my first outing.

The Apple watch might be a better smart watch for day-to-day use, but next to a Garmin it's pretty obvious which is the toy.

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/product-comparison-calculator?ty...

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+1 on Garmin watches. The "smartwatch" functionality leaves something to be desired, but the watch itself is great, with helpful training features, a great screen, and good battery life. I have the fr645 Music, and can bluetooth to wireless buds for a run. The new Fenix 6 series is awesome, but they're a little bulky for my wrist.

>The new Fenix 6 series is awesome Just checked them out and my jaw dropped when I saw the +600 Euro price-tag. Since I'm not made of money, I hope some core tech from those quickly trickles down to some cheaper sports trackers from Xiaomi for example.

Check out the Forerunner 945, it's near feature parity with the Fenix 6, but it's in a plastic body. I've got a FR935 (which is basically a Fenix 5 in a plastic body) and it's seriously great for anyone who spends a lot of time outdoors.

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How are they on privacy? The issue that I have is that every wearable device expects you to allow upload of sensitive information to their servers. At this point, especially with medical information such as heart rate, I do not trust it on any computer not covered by HIPAA or under my control.

> The issue that I have is that every wearable device expects you to allow upload of sensitive information to their servers This is not the case with the Apple Watch - your Health data lives and dies on your phone unless you back it up or choose to share it with other apps.

How do you know that? Have you examined the source code?

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How are they on privacy? The issue that I have is that every wearable device expects you to allow upload of sensitive information to their servers. At this point, especially with medical information such as heart rate, I do not trust it on any computer not covered by HIPAA or under my control.

Or simply encrypt everything before it leaves the watch and decrypt client-side ala ProtonMail. I believe most people, if given a discrete choice, would sacrifice 2% of battery life and "forgot your password?" features for the privacy of such information.

This is how HealthKit data works on iOS as long as you have two-factor authentication on for your iCloud account.
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