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Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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I have crash detection on my Garmin watch. It texted my wife zero seconds after I rode up a steep drainage ditch. I had not crashed.

Imagine the panic some mother is going to have when her two teenage sons get in a car to go somewhere, safely get that somewhere and for whatever reason high-five each other as hard as they possibly can.

The Apple watch has a countdown and a sound alert before alerting anyone.

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My friend was digging a hole in her garden. Her watch asked her, "are you ok?".

Digging is a very strenuous activity as well as shoveling. Anytime there's a major snow storm, enough people die from shoveling. So it probably detected that she was very stressed.

It was probably the same as the fall detection algorithm. Maybe it detected a high drop that didn't move back up (if they were on the ground digging) .. although it should have canceled with movement? Depends how that software was designed. From what the comments say, it seems like the Apple watch only does fall detection (and only if you're over a certain age by default)

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Tip: the fall detection feature seems to be turned off by default. I just turned mine on. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208944

Also of note: Fall detection is exclusive to the series 4 or above, which seems questionable. (I would be very surprised if the series 3 and 4 have significantly different accelerometer hardware)

> which seems questionable

Maybe because they added new hardware to enable it...?

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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On the flip side of this Samsung removed the oxygen saturation SPO2 feature from its phones in Canada and Cyprus (weirdly random choices). It was probably for legal reasons but you'd never find out why.

Here in Canada my dad who has COPD and IPF was using it to get a ballpark idea of his current blood oxygen percentage. It's not a medical device but it's (was) convenient for someone in his situation.

It seems fraudulent for a company to remove a feature without notice (yes probably buried on line 1,256 of an update). Not just an app but one that used a physical device/sensor on the phone removing it seems very wrong if not illegal.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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I have lots of criticisms for Apple, but this is truly an amazing thing that technology has brought us to this point. This is one of the few things that has me feeling like we "live in the future"

In the future, everyone will wear a smart watch (2015): https://h4labs.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/in-the-future-everyo... I’m disappointed that Android Wear didn’t take off. More competition would greatly increase innovation.

Lots of current trends make way more sense if you look at smartphones as universal communication devices that just happen so far to be slabs in the hands. However, it doesn't make privacy prospects look promising.

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and soon, people will be scared to even consider going for a jog without a device like that on their wrist. The more time passes the more i realize how much the saying « the road to hell is paved with good intentions » is true.

It seems highly likely to me that the Culture of Fear that pervades affluent western societies will exactly lead to what you predict. And those of us that do not wear a permanent tracking device will have some sort of financial (insurance rates) and emotional punishments (peer pressure/blackmail) inflicted on us. Speaking for myself, I'm ready to die when its time. If my body is so weak and knackered that I cannot ev…

If you feel your privacy is violated then contribute to projects like GadgetBridge and PineTime, both are in major need of developers and would allow you to reap the benefits without the tracking you seem to fear.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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several garmin watches have had this feature since May (I think) of this year, requiring a paired garmin compatible phone, actively running garmin app, to work; sends text to selected contact about “incident.” Doesn’t appear to contact emergency services. https://www.garmin.com/en-US/blog/featured-2/safety-and-trac...

The 2015 Garmin Edge Explore 1000 bike computer has this feature. By all accounts it was/is implemented poorly and triggers erroneously all the time. If they'd made it call the emergency services they'd have got in a lot of trouble. Apple don't deserve any credit for the idea but deserve something for doing it well.

If there's one thing Apple does well is reinventing the "wheel". Every single one of their product seems to be an improved iteration over some predecessor, I don't have any Apple devices though, I might be wrong.

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Even if it could check a trop, that's a pretty late indicator. If you're having the big one, you're going to be dead before your troponin spikes.

Is that right? When I worked in medical instrumentation, I was always told that TnI was a leading marker.

It will take up to 8 hours for troponin levels to rise after the onset of symptoms (typically 3-4).

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If in a car accident, your auto insurance will cover the replacement cost. Ensure you include it in the claim.

Speaking of car seats, Steven Levitt did this talk eleven years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5gMZcZWm0 The gist of it is that car seats do not help nearly as much as we hope. I got the impression that there ought to be a car with a built-in, non-removable car seat would work better. I'd imagine this would be an instant hit in the SUV market. However, no automaker seems to take up on the challenge. Is there…

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