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Re: Edward Snowden: Permanent Record

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Post by rjf72 » Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 6:04 AM UTC

vkou wrote: post #449

rjf72 wrote: post #424

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This is completely incorrect. To start with "IS, not WAS". PRISM hasn't gone anywhere and the most reasonable path here is to expect it's only substantially grown - as it already was doing at the time of its initial reveal. This [1] is a snippet of the PRISM collection overview. Data is sent straight from the partners to a DITU - data intercept technology unit which then processes the data in various ways before bein…

None of the facts you have cited contradict anything I said. The data that is sent into the PRISM system is data that is sent by cloud providers, in response to a targeted warrant . The data is not collected whole-sale - it is targeted to a particular individual. That's the whole bloody point of warrants. Once it's been sent by the cloud providers to the NSA, it ends up in a searchable database. I don't understand wh…

Since most of your post here is just repeating yourself, I'll avoid doing the same and again implore you to read the useful thing sources I've provided to support most of every statement I've made. You seem have grossly misinformed yourself on this topic and I would strongly suggest reading about it, ideally from The Guardian or the raw data itself. Suffice to say PRISM is not a fancy way of saying "sending a warrant to Google." This [1] is an article (ironically from the Washington Post) that provides a broad introduction to the program and it's scope, scale, and operation.

[1] - https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligenc...

Re: Edward Snowden: Permanent Record

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Post by saalweachter » Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 1:36 PM UTC

robmiller wrote: post #349

saalweachter wrote: post #344

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That does bug me now, having just looked at a lot of pictures, but it does appear you can find pictures where this is not the case, eg, https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/national-security-age...

I did a photo search too and decided to use "every" anyway. But hey, I got you to investigate it yourself and you'd have to agree on "most."

It also made me stumble across his interview from a couple years back talking about the "why" but I didn't dig enough to find out of the unbroken glasses are purely a time-series thing, or if he finally got tired of it and got his glasses fixed / got new glasses.

Re: Edward Snowden: Permanent Record

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Post by unethical_ban » Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 4:48 PM UTC

ulkesh wrote: post #420

unethical_ban wrote: post #146

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The point, I believe, is to recommend a vendor other than Amazon, whose business model is datacenter management and datamining and being a front for cheap Chinese goods. There is a bit of judgment, and that's okay.

Which added zero value about the book itself. But yet I’m downvoted for pointing out the stupidity. You win, Internet.

Considering Snowden sounded the alarm about privacy and surveillance by the U.S. government, as well as interactions with tech giants, I think the irony of buying the book on Amazon is relevant.

Re: Edward Snowden: Permanent Record

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Post by lern_too_spel » Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 7:10 PM UTC

nvarsj wrote: post #287

snowden_report wrote: post #242

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Much discussion on this topic relies on popular sentiment and media reporting. The redacted and declassified Congressional report should be considered a primary source and contradicts many common beliefs about Mr. Snowden: https://www.congress.gov/114/crpt/hrpt891/CRPT-114hrpt891.pd... The Executive Summary provides a good overview. In contrast to the Amazon book page that claims he helped "build" the system, it appe…

It's really hard to take that report seriously. It basically reads as FUD against snowden. This is what CIA and NSA agents are trained to do professionally.

Snowden was a lowly SharePoint administrator. Nobody has ever denied that. Snowden himself said that he got that job to have easy access to the documents. He never touched the actual systems described in the documents.

Re: Edward Snowden: Permanent Record

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Post by mengibar10 » Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 4:59 AM UTC

cwkoss wrote: post #306

mengibar10 wrote: post #209

I wonder what if he would mention anything about 5G in the book. As far as I understand, all the fuss US making against Huawei is actually due to its (future) crippling of its eavesdropping capability. Not that 5G is a panacea for that but Huawei is augmenting their equipments against such attacks, and they will be the main supplier.

This is interesting. Does anyone have further reading to recommend about this?

https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/09/article/huawei-calls-the-u...

Re: Edward Snowden: Permanent Record

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Re: Edward Snowden: Permanent Record

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Post by kevingrahl » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 8:52 AM UTC

xur17 wrote: post #161

madkangas wrote: post #155

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(Macmillan employee) To my knowledge, no and probably no. I'll inquire. I'm aware that it's available at Kobo in EPUB format but that includes Adobe DRM. https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/permanent-record-7

Thank you for the response. Sad to hear that it's only available with drm. It's going to show up on torrent sites within days no matter what, so as always honest consumers are the ones that lose.

I mean you could always buy the DRM’d ebook somewhere if you wish to support the book financially and then download a DRM free ePub from Libgen or via torrent. That’s what I did.

Re: Edward Snowden: Permanent Record

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Post by kevando » Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 3:27 PM UTC

apexalpha wrote: post #53

I can't speak for the US but this man has shifted so much of the political debate in my country and I think also in the EU in general. If you talked about the massive surveillance from governments people tossed you aside as a paranoid lunatic. After Snowden no one could ignore you anymore and privacy is an aspect in any public debate.

For me in the US I went from talking like a lunatic to talking about yesterday’s news. Frustrating to say the least.

Re: Edward Snowden: Permanent Record

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Post by OrgNet » Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 2:18 AM UTC

"I’m going to refrain from publishing how exactly I went about my own writing—my own copying and encryption—so that the NSA will still be standing tomorrow." Ed being sarcastic?