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Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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My friend was digging a hole in her garden. Her watch asked her, "are you ok?".

I've had a high heart rate a number of times while stationary, which sets off an alert on the Apple Watch that you may have an issue.

Each time, was watching a tight rugby match and getting a little over excited. Nice to know it works as advertised, though.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Well, crap. I have been avoiding smart watches like the plague but this plus the ECG may put me over the edge. My family has a history of heart disease, I commute by bike every day, and I have a young child who I want to see grow up. One of my friends was recently killed in a motorcycle crash. A passerby found them in the morning in some bushes near the side of the road. We don't know what time the crash occurred, or…

If you're in the market for a smart watch, and you're a cyclist, I'd recommend checking out Garmin. They have a massive array of sensors and record very precise data that is aggregated on Garmin Connect. It's been invaluable to me for assessing training effectiveness over time. They make Apple watches look like toys. If you want the latest and greatest, the Forerunner 945 is probably what you're looking for, but the…

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Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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post #83

I have lots of criticisms for Apple, but this is truly an amazing thing that technology has brought us to this point. This is one of the few things that has me feeling like we "live in the future"

In the future, everyone will wear a smart watch (2015): https://h4labs.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/in-the-future-everyo... I’m disappointed that Android Wear didn’t take off. More competition would greatly increase innovation.

>I’m disappointed that Android Wear didn’t take off. More competition would greatly increase innovation.

Android wearables have a chicken and egg problem. Manufacturers aren't innovating because nobody is buying and nobody is buying because there are no innovations.

Apple is fully vertically integrated so it can recoup the high R&D costs for new silicon and other components through the price of the unit but on Android platforms you have separate manufacturers for the vital components who are under pressure to be cost competitive as they don't get a slice of the profits of the final product so they won't invest in R&D until they see enough consumer demand which isn't there.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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post #142

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You are misrepresenting the research. The research is regarding the effect of public policy (making it illegal to bike without a helmet) on bicycle accidents. > With regard to the use of bicycle helmets, science broadly tries to answer two main questions... “what is the effect of a public health policy that requires or promotes helmets?” and... “what is the effect of wearing a helmet?” > The linked paper by Dennis an…

I am not misrepresenting the paper: it attempts to explain why countries with mandatory helmet laws see _no_clearly_measurable_reduction in KSI (Killed, Seriously Injured) rates. More cyclists wear helmets in those jurisdictions (parts of Canada, all of Australia and N.Z.) and yet ecological studies fail to clearly demonstrate any benefit from helmets. If you sprayed a field with RoundUp and saw no difference in the…

> I am not misrepresenting the paper: it attempts to explain why countries with mandatory helmet laws see _no_clearly_measurable_reduction in KSI (Killed, Seriously Injured) rates.

And in doing so, it goes to some effort to explain why you cannot, from that, conclude that helmets have no effect on individual accident outcomes, all other things being equal. (Mainly because all other things aren't equal, and it's very difficult to devise a methodology that makes them so.)

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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post #51

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Also does Apple Watch require ownership of iPhone?

As I mention above, the way I did this was to buy a low-cost/locked/unactivated iPhone 6s and paired the watch to it. It thus provides in-home monitoring of such events; I can confirm that it works well since it got inadvertently activated a couple of times (the first watchOS version with this feature seemed to be prone to false positives) and I had to talk to the emergency agent on her behalf to state that everythin…

Can I have one iPhone (in USA) and two watches - one in USA (me), another in Europe with my dad attached to local European SIM card to call local European number if he falls?

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Am I the only one concerned about the possible repercussions (to the wearer, I mean) of triggering a law enforcement response? There have been multiple cases now where (American, obviously) Law Enforcement have brutalized and injured people experiencing diabetic shock. And what if the fall and unconsciousness is the result of illicit drug use? Surely the wearer doesn't want a call to 911 to be the default behavior in…

> There have been multiple cases now where (American, obviously) Law Enforcement have brutalized and injured people experiencing diabetic shock.

Those incidents are reprehensible and should never be forgotten, and I don't intend to excuse them or the culture that enables them, but statistically they are extremely rare. Even in the worst parts of America, in a medical emergency you are better off with emergency treatment than not.

And if you don't want the watch to call 911, for whatever reason, you can turn that feature off.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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post #182

Well, crap. I have been avoiding smart watches like the plague but this plus the ECG may put me over the edge. My family has a history of heart disease, I commute by bike every day, and I have a young child who I want to see grow up. One of my friends was recently killed in a motorcycle crash. A passerby found them in the morning in some bushes near the side of the road. We don't know what time the crash occurred, or…

If you're in the market for a smart watch, and you're a cyclist, I'd recommend checking out Garmin. They have a massive array of sensors and record very precise data that is aggregated on Garmin Connect. It's been invaluable to me for assessing training effectiveness over time. They make Apple watches look like toys. If you want the latest and greatest, the Forerunner 945 is probably what you're looking for, but the…

How are they on privacy? The issue that I have is that every wearable device expects you to allow upload of sensitive information to their servers. At this point, especially with medical information such as heart rate, I do not trust it on any computer not covered by HIPAA or under my control.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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I really want an Apple Watch for this and the EKG / Heart stuff. But I hate the idea of having another bit of technology on my wrist when I already have the iPhone with me. I like watches, the mechanical kind. I love them as the art of design and as fashion item to be match to what you are wearing (when appropriate). I do not want to give that up. In the end I will likely give in and get the Apple Watch just because…

My perspective on this is just about the opposite. The watch is incredibly helpful, and isn't a distraction like my phone is. I have been wearing my watch and it has enabled me to leave my phone behind more often. It's been a way to wean myself off of technology, but still feel like I can reach people and they can reach me.

Re: Bike crash left Spokane man unconscious, so his Apple Watch called 911

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Technically I'm a paramedic...

I can never recall which is which. I assume paramedic is the better-credentialed?

Yeah, technically they're all levels of EMT, but "EMT" generally refers to "EMT-Basic" (a few months of training, a couple nights a week). EMT-Paramedic is ~18 months of a couple nights a week, plus 1,000+ hours of clinical time.
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