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Re: iPadOS

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Post by amerkhalid »

guptaneil wrote: post #82
nvrspyx wrote: post #47

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I’m pretty sure that just hides the app as you can then swipe it back into view from the edge. The parent commenter seems to want to end the process.

There is no difference in closing vs hiding apps in iOS. When the app is hidden, the process is stopped. Yes, you can force kill the process by swiping up on the dock and then swiping away the frozen apps , but you should never do this unless the app is unresponsive. It gets you zero benefit, other than using extra battery next time you launch the app to run its initial setup again. In fact Apple originally got rid o…

The problem with hiding app by sliding it off the screen in Split View is that next time you open it, it opens in Split View/sidebar.

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Post by unicornfinder »

Miraste wrote: post #169
savoytruffle wrote: post #28

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It supports iPads with an A8 series chip, while iOS 13 does not support such iPhones (which would be a 5S). It's presumably because the iPads of the same CPU generation usually have more RAM, more CPU cores, more GPU cores.

Those decisions are pretty arbitrary. Way back on iOS 5, the iPod Touch 4 got the update and the original iPad missed it, despite using the exact same processor and RAM.

Keep in mind though that in the iPad it's having to push a lot more pixels.

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Post by mistersquid »

username3 wrote: post #207
dallen33 wrote: post #18

The list of supported devices is impressive. The iPad Air 2 came out in 2014. 12.9-inch iPad Pro 11-inch iPad Pro 10.5-inch iPad Pro 9.7-inch iPad Pro iPad (7th generation) iPad (6th generation) iPad (5th generation) iPad mini (5th generation) iPad mini 4 iPad Air (3rd generation) iPad Air 2

iPad Air 2 users beware. An iPadOS update made my iPad 1 useless and crash all the time.

> An iPadOS update made my iPad 1 useless and crash all the time.

Do you mean mean an iOS update? iPadOS was not released until today, 24 Sep 2019.

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Post by fragmede »

Jyaif wrote: post #158
saagarjha wrote: post #124

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> In any case, I don't think there can be any opposing arguments on the side of security for Apple not updating Safari via AppStore or now allowing proper 3rd party browsers. Third party browsers entitled with dynamic codesigning poke a huge hole in Apple's security model for iOS devices.

Can you explain why allowing apps to ship with a JIT compiler be a security issue?

Sandboxing a JIT compiler is impossible to do perfectly, so there will always be the possibility of a sandbox escape, allowing the device to be jailbroken; but alsio for bad actors to take control of the device.

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Post by mcphage »

pdimitar wrote: post #202
saagarjha wrote: post #4

(It came out today, for those wondering why it’s being posted here.)

I’ve read a week ago that it will start rolling out from September the 30th, though. And still no software update available on my iPad Pro.

They pushed it (and iOS 13.1) up to the 24th a few days ago.

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Post by simonh »

nostromo wrote: post #55

I've tried to use these desktop-inspired features on iPad and they are befuddling. Using two apps at once is beyond confusing. A simple use case, like copying an address from a Safari tab into Gmail via split screen requires so many mysterious, undiscoverable gestures, I doubt almost anyone is doing that. I think Jobs was right that convergence between workstations and mobile devices requires too many sacrifices, at…

Horses for courses I suppose, it took me a few minutes to learn how to use popovers and split screen, and now it’s second nature.

My youngest doesn’t use any of that, but then she’s a magician with ProCreate and the pencil. It’s just a matter of what matters to you most.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by babyslothzoo »

The multitasking functions are very confusing, as are the new multi-finger gestures for performing undo/copy/paste etc. Nothing is obviously discoverable either, it all feels accidental at best, though that's been the case since they removed depth from the UI.

Wasn't the promise of iPad that it was much easier than a Mac or PC? I don't find that to be the case.

Anyway, I use mine as a couch browser. I still can't find a heavier use case for it.

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Post by aNoob7000 »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #201
eugeniub wrote: post #198

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> But many of the exploit chains did use public jailbreak exploits and Semi-unthethered jailbreaks exist for 32-bit iOS devices running up to iOS 10.3.3. Apple released iOS 10.3.4 on July 22, 2019 for iPhone 5 and iPad 4g.[1] So it's not completely unheard of for Apple to release iOS updates after officially dropping iOS support for old devices. From the Apple website:[2] > iOS 10.3.4 addresses an issue that could im…

Unlikely, if it was a security update then iPhone5C should have received it as well. iPhone5C didn't receive 10.3.4 update because its GPS hardware supposedly was an updated one than the iPhone5. Also, Google Project Zero article(link in parent comment) gives the clear timeline of the attacks and that the exploits were updated to mitigate patches with every new OS updates; so even if 10.3.4 had security patches older…

What Android phone released in 2013 is still getting security updates of any kind? You make it seem like Google and the manufacturers all update their phones consistently.

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Post by simonh »

luckydata wrote: post #64
robbyking wrote: post #11

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In 2018 I took a year off fro work to be a stay-at-home dad, and one thing that really surprised me was how little I used my MacBook; the only time I would drag it out was to connect my pre-bluetooth Garmin to sync my cycling workouts to Strava. Had my iPad supported USB devices, there's a good chance I wouldn't have used it at all.

You probably weren't doing any work and just using the iPad to watch and read stuff. It's made for that.

Maybe they’re mostly used for that, but ‘made for that’ is just not true. Apple has consistently, right from the start marketed it as a productivity and creative device, even emphasising iWork apps in the launch presentation and releasing Garage Band for it a few months after launch. They’ve consistently highlighted creative apps for the iPad year after year.

For me, my iPad is m primary creative device, by far. I write on it, sketch on it, code on it, spruice up photos on it. I don’t know what I’d do without Google Docs/Drive. I’m writing this on it. A few minutes ago I was posting, while doing some fact checking in Safari in a split view. It’s awesome!

Re: iPadOS

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Post by 9HZZRfNlpR »

aNoob7000 wrote: post #218
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #201

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Unlikely, if it was a security update then iPhone5C should have received it as well. iPhone5C didn't receive 10.3.4 update because its GPS hardware supposedly was an updated one than the iPhone5. Also, Google Project Zero article(link in parent comment) gives the clear timeline of the attacks and that the exploits were updated to mitigate patches with every new OS updates; so even if 10.3.4 had security patches older…

What Android phone released in 2013 is still getting security updates of any kind? You make it seem like Google and the manufacturers all update their phones consistently.

Browsers do get the updates, that is what's been compared here. I can run extremely old Android with updated browser(s).
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