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Re: iPadOS

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Post by penagwin »

gowld wrote: post #93
knolan wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iPad Air 2 was notable for being a powerhouse. The successor was actually slower. I guess iPadOS was in the oven for a long time.

Age doesn't make hardware incompatible with an OS. Architecture changes do.

Ehh I sorta disagree. Many older windows machines "could" run windows 10 today, but your experience would be miserable for casual desktop use unless you have at least 2GB, etc.

So a windows xp machine "could" run windows 10 but you don't really want to. In apple's case you can't downgrade your OS version, and I've seen an iPad 2 go from "smooth and fluent" to "crashes before I can even unlock it" from OS updates.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by Someone1234 »

finkin1 wrote: post #5

I wonder why they aren't advertising mouse support. This seems like one of the most useful features to me. They didn't mention it on the keynote and I can't find it on their website anywhere. Any thoughts on why Apple wouldn't be pushing this as a major advancement for iPad?

I've had the iOS 13 beta for several months and am using the mouse support to teach our four year old basic mouse usage. It is a nice compromise, because an iPad is a simpler device for her to navigate and understand than a PC (and has much better parental controls) but this gets her familiar with a PC's peripherals for when we do introduce her to a PC later.

The Logitech M535 worked without hassle, and fit her hand well. We combined it with a OMOTON Ultra-Slim keyboard for a full "PC peripherals-like experience."

I still feel like mouse support is half baked. Almost like Apple hobbled it on purpose to make sure you KNEW it wasn't the primary way to interact with an iPad. It should be a first class citizen like the keyboard support in my view, with basic settings like auto-hiding the cursor when it isn't connected and cursor configuration (no more giant blob).

Re: iPadOS

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Post by lcfcjs2 »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #100

Track record for Apple when it comes to iOS/iPadOS updates has been impressive, but once they stop updating their device it becomes more vulnerable than their android counterpart for basic Internet browsing just because Apple doesn't update Safari via AppStore and doesn't allow any other browser engine . Case in point : Google Project Zero's latest iOS Exploit chains on webkit shows how easy it was(*is?) for an iOS u…

I had a samsung that stopped receiving updates. So this post is completely misleading, all manufacturers stop supporting old products. It's a way to get you to upgrade.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by ascagnel_ »

yodon wrote: post #95

Was there some sort of connect your bluetooth mouse announcement, or was that speculation of something iPadOS would support that never happened?

There was, but it's more of an accessibility feature -- the cursor is a relatively large circle, simulating a fingertip, rather than a pinpoint cursor.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by damnyou »

cujo wrote: post #45
wayneftw wrote: post #41

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Why do you want a extremely limited computer, one that you hardly have any control over, as your development machine. Do you really want Apple making all of your decisions for you? I won’t even use macOS due to the limitations that don’t exist anywhere else, but mostly because I think Apple makes bad decisions and then does not give me any options to change the behavior. They are such a “one size fits all” company th…

I'll bite. What were the limitations?

I don't know what GP has in mind, but you normally can't do basic developer stuff like run dtrace on system binaries or use TotalSpaces. The only way to do that is to disable SIP by holding down a bunch of keys at startup, and that mysteriously re-enables itself after reboots with a pattern I haven't figured out.

It's beyond frustrating to have to type in terminal commands in a special recovery zone to have a functional computer. Reminds me of typing grub commands at each boot to get graphics on Linux computers circa 2000 or so.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by dukoid »

jdlyga wrote: post #26

I've had the iPadOS beta for a while, and it's basically just iOS 13 with some iPad specific features. There's no significant divergence yet.

If folding devices become a trend, there will be less need for convergence then? :)

Re: iPadOS

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Post by adam12 »

> Connect an external hard drive, SD card reader, and, yes, even a USB drive.

So innovative!

Re: iPadOS

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Post by Grazester »

guelo wrote: post #104
lambda wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google only does it for 3 years, and that's from launch. Apple is supporting devices 5 years old. I've been buying Google phones (Nexus/Pixel) because they do get the longest support, but I still get frustrated by the fact that if I buy one late in the cycle, I only really get 2 years of support for it.

Android 10 was just released for the original Pixel which came out 6 and a half years ago in 2013.

You're mistaken. The Pixel Chromebook was originally released in 2013. The Pixel brand as a phone only started in 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Pixel#Pixel

Re: iPadOS

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Post by chadlavi »

noja wrote: post #21
ben7799 wrote: post #3

Wow.. you can finally plug in a USB drive/card reader/camera/whatever... That alone actually takes the iPad a long way towards actually being real/Pro/whatever. I sold my first Gen iPad Pro over this stuff. It was just to painful to do a lot of real world stuff that involved files. Maybe today the experience would be a heck of a lot better.

It's meant to replace MacOS eventually

Once they give access to a terminal (even if it's sandboxed) and start letting developers port apps like vscode and sketch to iPadOS, there will be 0 barrier any more for me personally to making the leap.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by robin_reala »

privateSFacct wrote: post #83

Everytime I read about greenpeace talking about how Apple's products are so terrible for the environment while saying nothing about android products I roll my eyes. Same thing with the fix it folks saying Apple's products are "unrepairable". There is a great market for both repair and reuse / re-sale in apple products. It's interesting comparing a 4 year old android tablet or phone (which was sometimes a year behind…

Huh? Greenpeace have had nothing but praise for Apple for at least the last three years.
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