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Re: iPadOS

#92
The biggest problem I've found with using my iPad pro as a full time device is that the iPad does not have a real concept of keyboard focus. This is a big deal in split-screen apps, where hard as I try I can't get my terminal emulator to accept keyboard input -- I just keep typing in Safari.

Hopefully this is something that Apple addresses now that they consider iPad OS to be a real OS and not a scaled-up iOS.

Re: iPadOS

#93
post #72

The list of supported devices is impressive. The iPad Air 2 came out in 2014. 12.9-inch iPad Pro 11-inch iPad Pro 10.5-inch iPad Pro 9.7-inch iPad Pro iPad (7th generation) iPad (6th generation) iPad (5th generation) iPad mini (5th generation) iPad mini 4 iPad Air (3rd generation) iPad Air 2

The iPad Air 2 was notable for being a powerhouse. The successor was actually slower. I guess iPadOS was in the oven for a long time.

Age doesn't make hardware incompatible with an OS. Architecture changes do.

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#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When you compare it to Android where you're lucky to get 18 months support it comes out ahead Google keeps their own hardware updated quite well, I liked the monthly security updates. With regards to the rest of the tablet market, basically only Samsung and Lenovo are left, and Samsung lost me as a customer a long time ago. I've been looking at the iPad Air 3 recently and while it looks nice, I just fell in love wi…

My personal pet peeve about Android updates is that they start the clock the day that they release the product, instead of say, starting the doomsday clock on the day they discontinue the product. So if you happen to wait 12 months for the price to drop from $800 to $500, you lose 12 months of software support. (I bought a Pixel 3 this spring when it was on sale for $400, but support ends in 2 years - October 2021.)

They stopped issuing major updates for the Nexus 5X very shortly after Google Fi stopped selling them brand new on their website.

Re: iPadOS

#95
Was there some sort of connect your bluetooth mouse announcement, or was that speculation of something iPadOS would support that never happened?

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#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

I’m guessing so the parent poster can do Development on the iPad without having to use the full MBP. I’d be interested in this as well.

Yes basically this.

Not sure if it has the power to do anything beyond light web dev, but would still be amazing.

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#97

I've tried to use these desktop-inspired features on iPad and they are befuddling. Using two apps at once is beyond confusing. A simple use case, like copying an address from a Safari tab into Gmail via split screen requires so many mysterious, undiscoverable gestures, I doubt almost anyone is doing that. I think Jobs was right that convergence between workstations and mobile devices requires too many sacrifices, at…

The touch based workstation has been a concept forever, the technology just hasn't been there to execute it for a mass audience. All these systems need to do is provide enough value to be marketable; there's no reason for tech companies to ignore this as a product category.

With more time and effort put into development it may be surprising just how effective they become. Most young kids I see are far more exposed to touch based interaction than trackpad, keyboard or mouse and I expect that will continue to be the case for most of their lives. Those of us who grew up with a physical keyboard as a primary input device can't relate.

Re: iPadOS

#98
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Cool, but nothing about any focus on making the machine realistic for development. My current MacBook Pro is getting a little long in the tooth and after suffering through the 2016 and later versions at work, I will not be buying one of those until the keyboards are fixed. If iPadOS has first class terminal support I would consider making it my full time machine. Looks like the waiting game will continue.

The iPad was never intended to be a desktop or laptop replacement; it was meant to invent a new niche for a computer with a "fileless" interface. Expecting it to replace your development machine is probably not realistic.

> The iPad was never intended to be a desktop or laptop replacement

I think it was and has been for many people.

Re: iPadOS

#99

When you compare it to Android where you're lucky to get 18 months support it comes out ahead. When you compare it to MacOS and Windows 10 which run on 8-10 year old hardware, not as much. Of course how good Windows support is for that older hardware depends largely on OEMs and driver support and varies greatly. Linux can run on 20 year old hardware... or older?

> When you compare it to Android where you're lucky to get 18 months support it comes out ahead Google keeps their own hardware updated quite well, I liked the monthly security updates. With regards to the rest of the tablet market, basically only Samsung and Lenovo are left, and Samsung lost me as a customer a long time ago. I've been looking at the iPad Air 3 recently and while it looks nice, I just fell in love wi…

Google only does it for 3 years, and that's from launch. Apple is supporting devices 5 years old.

I've been buying Google phones (Nexus/Pixel) because they do get the longest support, but I still get frustrated by the fact that if I buy one late in the cycle, I only really get 2 years of support for it.

Re: iPadOS

#100
Track record for Apple when it comes to iOS/iPadOS updates has been impressive, but once they stop updating their device it becomes more vulnerable than their android counterpart for basic Internet browsing just because Apple doesn't update Safari via AppStore and doesn't allow any other browser engine.

Case in point : Google Project Zero's latest iOS Exploit chains on webkit shows how easy it was(*is?) for an iOS user to fall victim to browser vulnerabilities by just visiting a website.[1]

The exploits covered targeted only 64-bit, so technically devices I don't know whether complete exploit chain as detailed in the project zero wasn't possible for 32-bit devices or the attackers just didn't care about those devices. It is safe to assume, they are vulnerable.

Where as a 7 year old android device can still download Firefox for Android with latest security updates.

In any case, I don't think there can be any opposing arguments on the side of security for Apple not updating Safari via AppStore or now allowing proper 3rd party browsers.

[1]: https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-very-deep-d...

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