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Lots of articles have linkbait titles and promote books. Few resonate on here. That article resonated on here becuase a lot of people on the site are intimatedly familar with pros & cons of the style of mothership described in the book. I don't really see what point you are trying to make.
The point is "I never click ads! They're terrible only idiots click them!"... "Ooh an advert for a book "
Why American Mothers are Superior
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I really love this guy's writing. He cuts through the layers of BS so well and exposes something closer to root causes better than anyone I've ever seen.
Its pretty damn good, but the author is a she.
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#33Her daughter Ronda Rousey is a 2008 Olympic bronze medalist in Judo, and is on her way to becoming the next 145 lbs female MMA champion.
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#35It reads like we're having a child-off between exceptionally gifted Chinese children, and exceptionally gifted American children. What about normal children? I'd love to see these anecdotes turned into evidence.
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/22/17-gifted-childre...
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#36-To understand the mentality of a Chinese parent, you need to know a few things. First, the obvious one child policy, and the expectation that this one child will support their children but also their parents and grandparents (no social security, minuscule pensions and a non-existent safety net). This puts an enormous pressure on the individual to have a stable and high wage job. Lots of people on these boards are in startups (or would like to be), but few Chinese nationals are willing to take that route due to the immense risks involved. They're gambling not only their personal wealth but also the survival of their family.
-School is brutal, particularly college admissions. Each student at the end of high school takes something called the gaokao. Imagine the SAT on steroids (2 days long) that you only take one and almost wholly determines what "tier" of college you get admitted into. You can take it once a year, and if you fail, you have a second chance one year later (the intervening year is usually spent studying 14+ hrs a day). You pour a gazillion college-bound kids into this crucible of death, with only a scant few slots at the other end. Even for the student goes abroad to study, they've been indoctrinated with the cutthroat and "success at all costs" mentality necessary to get ahead in China. It's a numbers game, and the numbers are stacked to make your life hell.
What does this have to do with obsessive parents? Take these last two facts and mix in some historical perspective. Many of these parents either lived through or are sufficiently proximate to the turmoil of the 1960's and 1970's to know how brutal life can be for those that do not get ahead. It's not the American poverty of temp labor and living in a trailer park; it's the poverty of starving to death. It's the poverty of not having shelter from the cold, of having zero access to medical care. While this is less true of today's China, the fear of this poverty survives, even for those in relative affluence (think of your grandparents that lived through the depression and still are obsessively thrifty).
I can understand why these parents are monomaniacal in ensuring (or trying to ensure) a better life for their kids. With grueling competition, a one-child policy, scant social safety nets and a vivid memory of how brutal China can be, it makes sense.
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#37I found it sort of silly in both articles that they make a universal qualification, but then follow up their reasoning based on more or less anecdotal, personal evidence. Whether you're Chinese or American, it doesn't make you superior at all. What makes you superior is the direction and tone you take with your children based on who they are and who you are. Where this jingoistic element came in, I'm not really sure.…
You would think an actual statistician with a thesis in psychometrics would be able to do better than that, yeah. It's fine to talk about anecdotes and her experience as an employer and what not, but without the facts, it's like a dinner with only dessert.
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#39Also worth reading is The Last Psychiatrist's response to the Chinese mothers article: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/01/why_chinese_mothers_a...
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Of course it's trolling, but people respond seriously because (apparently) this style of parenting is common.
>because (apparently) this style of parenting is common. It is not common. Every Chinese mother I know (that would be quite a few) found the Amy Chua article to be repulsive. Just like the American moms did, except that they knew people would equate them with Chua's ideas so it makes them even angrier. My own wife (a Chinese mom) and her friends and relatives have been circulating the Chua article and talking about i…
The is an old saying that we most hate in others what we most hate in ourselves.
A number of Chinese friends of mine say that they recognized Amy Chua's description, it is how they were raised. So certainly some out there fit the description. Whether or not they think they do.
...and it strikes a chord because people are too sensitive to perceived criticism of things that matter deeply to their psyches...
AKA cognitive dissonance. You're absolutely right.