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Re: Why American Mothers are Superior

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Post by JoeAltmaier » Fri, Jan 14, 2011, 10:40 PM UTC

gaoshan wrote: post #12

Herring wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course it's trolling, but people respond seriously because (apparently) this style of parenting is common.

>because (apparently) this style of parenting is common. It is not common. Every Chinese mother I know (that would be quite a few) found the Amy Chua article to be repulsive. Just like the American moms did, except that they knew people would equate them with Chua's ideas so it makes them even angrier. My own wife (a Chinese mom) and her friends and relatives have been circulating the Chua article and talking about i…

Really? Asian Moms aren't like that? Anecdotally, let me assure you that my son's high school is full of them. All but one of the best musicians are Asian. All the best mathematicians are Asian. These young folks have little life outside of lessons and competitions.

All those 'quite a few' Chinese mothers you know, you said were repulsed. But how many of them fit the description?

Re: Why American Mothers are Superior

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Post by bhousel » Fri, Jan 14, 2011, 10:45 PM UTC

dkl wrote: post #16

bhousel wrote: post #4

Also worth reading is The Last Psychiatrist's response to the Chinese mothers article: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/01/why_chinese_mothers_a...

I really love this guy's writing. He cuts through the layers of BS so well and exposes something closer to root causes better than anyone I've ever seen.

I agree.. I would submit more of The Last Psychiatrist to HN, but lately it's been auto killed by the new submission filter.

The Last Psychiatrist reminds me a lot of Gary Brecher's War Nerd blog. Both offer a raw cut-through-the-BS point of view.

Re: Why American Mothers are Superior

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Post by wglb » Fri, Jan 14, 2011, 10:55 PM UTC

bhousel wrote: post #4

Also worth reading is The Last Psychiatrist's response to the Chinese mothers article: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/01/why_chinese_mothers_a...

Disagree. Seems to be a self-appointed authority playing parlor tricks: "I can tell you are resisting".

Being a parent and having raised a couple of kids myself, the motive is not just for college, but to launch you better in life. Not all my siblings went to college, and those that didn't are what I would call well launched.

I am not surprised this blog is auto-killed.

Re: Why American Mothers are Superior

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Post by wslh » Fri, Jan 14, 2011, 11:04 PM UTC

I am waiting for the Jewish Mother article :-)

Re: Why American Mothers are Superior

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Post by krschultz » Fri, Jan 14, 2011, 11:08 PM UTC

aresant wrote: post #11

I am amused that yesterday a top HN story was about the demise of internet advertising and the associated HN comments trend towards agreeing that ads are not effective: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2098301 and http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2101163 Then today the top story is poking fun of "advertising words" which is an intellectualized kick in the face to the techniques that marketers use to draw you in…

Lots of articles have linkbait titles and promote books. Few resonate on here. That article resonated on here becuase a lot of people on the site are intimatedly familar with pros & cons of the style of mothership described in the book.

I don't really see what point you are trying to make.

Re: Why American Mothers are Superior

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Post by bhousel » Fri, Jan 14, 2011, 11:09 PM UTC

wglb wrote: post #23

bhousel wrote: post #4

Also worth reading is The Last Psychiatrist's response to the Chinese mothers article: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/01/why_chinese_mothers_a...

Disagree. Seems to be a self-appointed authority playing parlor tricks: "I can tell you are resisting". Being a parent and having raised a couple of kids myself, the motive is not just for college, but to launch you better in life. Not all my siblings went to college, and those that didn't are what I would call well launched. I am not surprised this blog is auto-killed.

Haha, you don't have to agree! It's important to read that blog with a critical eye, even more so as it's laced with such strong opinion.

I'm also not surprised that it's auto-killed.

Re: Why American Mothers are Superior

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Post by axod » Fri, Jan 14, 2011, 11:14 PM UTC

krschultz wrote: post #25

aresant wrote: post #11

I am amused that yesterday a top HN story was about the demise of internet advertising and the associated HN comments trend towards agreeing that ads are not effective: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2098301 and http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2101163 Then today the top story is poking fun of "advertising words" which is an intellectualized kick in the face to the techniques that marketers use to draw you in…

Lots of articles have linkbait titles and promote books. Few resonate on here. That article resonated on here becuase a lot of people on the site are intimatedly familar with pros & cons of the style of mothership described in the book. I don't really see what point you are trying to make.

The point is "I never click ads! They're terrible only idiots click them!"... "Ooh an advert for a book "

Re: Why American Mothers are Superior

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Post by tomjen3 » Fri, Jan 14, 2011, 11:15 PM UTC

dkl wrote: post #16

bhousel wrote: post #4

Also worth reading is The Last Psychiatrist's response to the Chinese mothers article: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/01/why_chinese_mothers_a...

I really love this guy's writing. He cuts through the layers of BS so well and exposes something closer to root causes better than anyone I've ever seen.

Its pretty damn good, but the author is a she.

Re: Why American Mothers are Superior

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Post by c0riander » Fri, Jan 14, 2011, 11:18 PM UTC

aresant wrote: post #11

I am amused that yesterday a top HN story was about the demise of internet advertising and the associated HN comments trend towards agreeing that ads are not effective: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2098301 and http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2101163 Then today the top story is poking fun of "advertising words" which is an intellectualized kick in the face to the techniques that marketers use to draw you in…

*Chua

Re: Why American Mothers are Superior

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Post by lazyant » Fri, Jan 14, 2011, 11:19 PM UTC

My job is to make my kids happy in the long term and I don't think playing piano perfectly or having As in math holds any correlation with it (unless that's what they like). I'd cut my left hand without a thought if that will guarantee that my kids will lead average happy lives.