Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

Post by clouddrover » Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 12:59 AM UTC

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"huge marketing campaign advertising a car that doesn't exist" Perhaps they are trying to gauge the likely success of the car before some final production decisions are made. You do have to wonder how Tesla is going to survive the first surge of practical mass-market electric cars. They definitely are riding some sort of tiger while trying to build out marketshare, technology, infrastructure. My money is on Toyota bu…

Tesla is first to market on a lot of fronts and has the huge first-mover advantage, but you're right, when the competition gets real the easy wins will be over. It has been said -- many times -- that the actual major advantage of Tesla cars is that they get better over time by virtue of their software update process. While many many of the big players (VW, Toyota, Honda, etc.) are going to match specs when it comes t…

Post by magicalhippo » Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 1:15 AM UTC

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Why do electric cars have such different wheels, almost closed discs style? I still have to see the first Tesla with chrome rims.

Lower air resistance gives longer range. The Tesla Model S has spoked aluminum rims in black. For some reason, nobody customizes them.

Post by mrfusion » Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 1:38 AM UTC

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Tesla is first to market on a lot of fronts and has the huge first-mover advantage, but you're right, when the competition gets real the easy wins will be over. It has been said -- many times -- that the actual major advantage of Tesla cars is that they get better over time by virtue of their software update process. While many many of the big players (VW, Toyota, Honda, etc.) are going to match specs when it comes t…

I would pay for my car to NEVER update without my express approval. That is the definition of "my" - I get to decide how and when it changes. In fact, i think i will do just that. I might pick up one of these ID cars and thus vote with my wallet. I am no EV fanboy, but this one looks like a practical second car fit for simple short-range missions

Post by zaroth » Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 1:42 AM UTC

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And that’s for a 205mi range (that will be WLTP not EPA so real world will be ~15% lower) on a 45kWh battery back that can only charge at 50kW. Top speed is 99mph, 0-60 is unannounced. The higher priced versions can charge up to 100kW. But frankly, the base model specs seem abysmal?

> 0-60 is unannounced Anybody looking for a mid-range Golf/ID.3 type car (excluding top models like GTI/R/etc.) cares very little about 0-100Km/h times. In the same vein they also didn't announce the Nürburgring lap times. Edit. Also based on the numbers Tesla publishes for the same car the difference between WLTP and EPA is less that 7%. Is it expected that in some cases it varies up to 15%?

Post by anchpop » Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 1:51 AM UTC

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I feel like everyone overlooks the Chevy Bolt (probably because of all the Tesla hype). At the dealer (w/ bargaining and/or discounts), you can get one for 30k USD. This is before the US federal tax credit, so you'll get some money back.

Friends comment about his Bolt. It's a car. Thats what I wanted, a car.