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Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

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Re: Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

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European here, trying to actually buy the thing. You can't. The first reservations will be fulfilled in the middle of 2020, but those will only be the mid-sized battery versions.

If you want the version with a larger battery, there is no firm ship date, but it is expected in 2021.

What I find somewhat amusing is that for the past months we've been bombarded by a huge marketing campaign advertising a car that doesn't exist :-)

Re: Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

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European here, trying to actually buy the thing. You can't. The first reservations will be fulfilled in the middle of 2020, but those will only be the mid-sized battery versions. If you want the version with a larger battery, there is no firm ship date, but it is expected in 2021. What I find somewhat amusing is that for the past months we've been bombarded by a huge marketing campaign advertising a car that doesn't…

I love it, but I don’t think these are even coming to the North American market.

Re: Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

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For the masses? My family is doing fairly well for people in my generation and I've never ever briefly considered buying a car for more than 10k.

And in a few years time, used ID.3's will be available for under 10K.

Re: Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

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I'm really excited for more viable electric vehicles. But, the claim that this is the first car for the masses when it's simply 2-3k (~33k to ~35k in USD) cheaper than a Tesla model 3 is discouraging.

That said, I do understand that the total cost of ownership does catch up if you keep the car long enough. I would just love to see something in the 20s, or even lower. (Further, I'm very sympathetic to the argument that reduced carbon is more important than my personal financial expense.)

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Thanks for all the clarification. I had no idea about VAT.

Re: Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

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For the masses? My family is doing fairly well for people in my generation and I've never ever briefly considered buying a car for more than 10k.

That’s a nice anecdote. The average new car selling price is over $30k (in the US).

Re: Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

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I'm really excited for more viable electric vehicles. But, the claim that this is the first car for the masses when it's simply 2-3k (~33k to ~35k in USD) cheaper than a Tesla model 3 is discouraging. That said, I do understand that the total cost of ownership does catch up if you keep the car long enough. I would just love to see something in the 20s, or even lower. (Further, I'm very sympathetic to the argument tha…

And that’s for a 205mi range (that will be WLTP not EPA so real world will be ~15% lower) on a 45kWh battery back that can only charge at 50kW.

Top speed is 99mph, 0-60 is unannounced.

The higher priced versions can charge up to 100kW. But frankly, the base model specs seem abysmal?

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