There is the Email Industry - that is the problem.
Just because you associate emails with spam doesn't solve the problem of every charity, business, church, school and group needing to communicate with large numbers of email subscribers. Like anything, bad actors make it worse.
Dear Email Industry, We’ve Got a GDPR Problem
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I think any email that uses tracking pixels could be classified as either spam or marketing, or possibly both. If you use tracking pixels in your receipts, I think you're doing it wrong.
What about mandatory service announcements where you want to know if you reached clients before breaking them?
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Do you need to know that they were 34 unique visitors or would properly anonymised data be enough? I suspect it would be. The GDPR doesn't say you can't have analytics, but it quite rightly tries to prevent the kind of tracking you're talking about without explicit consent from the user being tracked.
Yes, properly anonymised data would be enough. I'm not talking about anything intrusive. I don't care who they are, I care about how they use my product. That can be done in a GDPR complaint way.
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> While spammers may have a problem, people don't. Marketing spammers maybe, but now scammers and malware spammers have the floor instead. Laws only stop the law abiding citizens from doing their thing, it sure doesn't stop the criminals from.... being criminals.
Actually it does, because if industry stops using tracking pixels, it demotivates email clients from having to support it, and makes it easier to block bad actors. Same with tracking on websites and browser support. Chrome would instantly put in a tracking blocker if Google couldn't do tracking any more. But so far Google's strategy is fighting and working around the law because they think they would lose a huge amou…
Hardly. It's just the abuse of being able to display images in HTML-formatted mail. You would have to remove every tag and attribute that is able to request an external URL from a mail HTML dialect to counteract tracking.
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This is incorrect, an EU website must provide notification of cookies if they use cookies at all , even for basic session tracking of authenticated users.
Incorrect. I guess this must be a lie pushed by bad actors who are inconvenienced by the regulation and want the public to perceive the regulation negatively. You do not need consent for cookies that power basic website functionality or a feature the user is trying to use. So setting a cookie when someone logs in or adds an item to their shopping cart.
Note that they provide notification of necessary cookies, and default opt-out of analytics cookies.
> You do not need consent for cookies that power basic website functionality or a feature the user is trying to use.
This is correct, you do not need consent for necessary cookies. You do, however, have to provide notification that necessary cookies are being set.
Re: Dear Email Industry, We’ve Got a GDPR Problem
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If it's from a legitimate company in American jurisdiction they are legally obligated to stop sending emails if you click unsubscribe. I suppose that piece of information has some nonzero value that you are giving up in exchange to not be contacted by that company. If you filter just a single address that address can change. If you filter their domain you might lose legitimate correspondence.
I’ve had several groupings of unsolicited marketing emails over the years where I’ve clicked Unsubscribe and ended up on what’s very clearly a Totally Not That Email List, Honest...but it’s advertising the same things, in the same way, just from a slightly different email and possibly different company name. They have all been American in origin.
Re: Dear Email Industry, We’ve Got a GDPR Problem
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just because you associate emails with spam doesn't solve the problem of every charity, business, church, school and group needing to communicate with large numbers of email subscribers. Like anything, bad actors make it worse.
Somehow all those groups managed to get by without email in the past. I'm sure they would be fine today as well.
Re: Dear Email Industry, We’ve Got a GDPR Problem
#179"This stressed out a lot of email marketers, who quite rightly realised that the new regulations would have a significant effect on their ability to acquire and market to customers via their email address" "The overwhelming majority of commercial email sent today contains tracking pixels and tracking links, these are used to uniquely identify individuals so that opens and clicks can be correctly attributed to them" G…
> While spammers may have a problem, people don't. Marketing spammers maybe, but now scammers and malware spammers have the floor instead. Laws only stop the law abiding citizens from doing their thing, it sure doesn't stop the criminals from.... being criminals.
Re: Dear Email Industry, We’ve Got a GDPR Problem
#180"This stressed out a lot of email marketers, who quite rightly realised that the new regulations would have a significant effect on their ability to acquire and market to customers via their email address" "The overwhelming majority of commercial email sent today contains tracking pixels and tracking links, these are used to uniquely identify individuals so that opens and clicks can be correctly attributed to them" G…
What surprises me more is that tracking pixels even work anymore. What email clients don't bother to filter them out?
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