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Yeah I intentionally bought a dumb TV instead of a smart TV five years ago... recently started thinking about whether it might be interesting to upgrade to a 4k and/or OLED model before discovering that they’re ALL smart.

Amazon sells dumb 4K TVs.

I've looked in the past and could never seem to find one. Do you happen to have a link on hand? I'd be very interested, especially if it also supports HDR.

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you can block any device by their mac on your router

Some TVs will connect to your neighbours' open wifi, so no, you can't, unfortunately.

No wonder why there are so many rogue IoT devices and botnets. This kind of behavior from the TV manufacturers needs to stop.

Stop making everything connected, or at least make it work properly without Internet access, and stop connecting devices at any cost.

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I would love to update my 10 year old 1080p Philips non-smart TV to a 55" or so 4K HDR screen but I don't want any of the smart features. Does anyone know of any manufacturers selling high end "dumb" TVs? For now I'm comfortable using my appleTV but I like the fact that I can disconnect it at any time. I want a TV that will simply display whatever signal it receives without any connectivity required.

As long as you don’t connect it to the internet, can’t do much harm. Though HDMI has evolved into a supper chatty protocol with information going both ways. HDMI doesn’t allow a TV to access the internet connection of a laptop or ps4 connected to it, right?

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I was shocked when a medical device I got had a built-in CDMA modem to send telemetry to my insurance company. Thankfully there's an airplane mode.

Patient appears to not be using device, increase rates accordingly.

That's pretty much what it's for! If you don't use the modem, you need to export usage data onto an SD card and mail it in.

Conceptually, I understand that they don't want to continue paying for a therapy if you're not actually using the equipment. But having a wireless modem built-in is a bridge too far.

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I would love to update my 10 year old 1080p Philips non-smart TV to a 55" or so 4K HDR screen but I don't want any of the smart features. Does anyone know of any manufacturers selling high end "dumb" TVs? For now I'm comfortable using my appleTV but I like the fact that I can disconnect it at any time. I want a TV that will simply display whatever signal it receives without any connectivity required.

I'm using an LG OLED TV (2018 model I think) with an Apple TV, and it's working pretty much exactly like a dumb screen. I haven't connected the TV to the network, and I control everything with the Apple TV remote - it turns on the TV via HDMI CEC as needed, and when I turn off the Apple TV the TV turns off too. I've also connected my home theater system via HDMI ARC to get better sound, and CEC turns on and off the s…

Thanks for posting this, I'll keep it in mind. It's funny how annoying it is when a TV takes 10 seconds to "boot up"

Re: Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Facebook

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I would love to update my 10 year old 1080p Philips non-smart TV to a 55" or so 4K HDR screen but I don't want any of the smart features. Does anyone know of any manufacturers selling high end "dumb" TVs? For now I'm comfortable using my appleTV but I like the fact that I can disconnect it at any time. I want a TV that will simply display whatever signal it receives without any connectivity required.

LG seems to be the least crappy option here. But if you're willing to spend some extra $$, you can get a "meeting room display" with the same panel, but zero smart features and no speakers.

Do you mean from LG specifically? Just had a quick google search for "meeting room display 4k hdr" and Sony Bravia professional displays including playing "online content with no need for external devices"

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I would love to update my 10 year old 1080p Philips non-smart TV to a 55" or so 4K HDR screen but I don't want any of the smart features. Does anyone know of any manufacturers selling high end "dumb" TVs? For now I'm comfortable using my appleTV but I like the fact that I can disconnect it at any time. I want a TV that will simply display whatever signal it receives without any connectivity required.

Roku TVs can operate in a dumb mode -- during guided setup, you can opt to not connect to the network, and they won't try to connect from that point on. There are still some ads that show up occasionally on the home screen, but they're built into the OS ROM and are to encourage connecting.

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I have an extra SSID which has no internet access and logs all of the things for exactly this reason.

What's the simple setup for something like this?

Ubiqti makes it really simple

Basically create a new hidden ssid and make a new rout that goes nowhere

Then enter SSID and password into the tv

You can monitor that interface too

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Amazon sells dumb 4K TVs.

I've looked in the past and could never seem to find one. Do you happen to have a link on hand? I'd be very interested, especially if it also supports HDR.

Amazon.com menu > Electronics, Computers & Office > TV & Video

Type in "4k -smart" without the quotes in the search box. Use the filters on the left to narrow it down to TVs (like selecting what size you want).

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That is surprising. I've had my Kindles on airplane mode for up to a year and haven't received any notices like that.

Do you have the ad supported version?

Yes. It shows cached ads for about a week after turning airplane mode and then just stays on a default Kindle ad screen indefinitely.
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