Caesarean babies have different gut bacteria, microbiome study finds

Post by irrational » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 1:13 PM UTC

rolltiide wrote: post #112

homero wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but he jokes about it being from cunnilingus

Jamie Dimon had throat cancer and the first thing I thought of was him eating some ladies out I paid for my HPV vaccine out of pocket while the money was good, with the risk of it being completely ineffective at my ripe old age of 26

Post by wdbbdw » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 4:53 PM UTC

extipion wrote: post #119

wdbbdw wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, after having had a front row seat to more than one vaginal birth I'd say that it's implausible to suggest that microbes aren't being transferred (via "vagina juice" and the proverbial "microbial organ", i.e. poop) from mother to baby. Also, having dabbled in microbial ecology in my professional life, I'd say that it's unlikely that said microbial transfer is inconsequential for the gut health of the baby. Do…

> Doctors don't know everything, and I'd venture that effectively no research on the effects of a cesarian on the baby's gut health was done before the procedure became widespread. You’d venture wrong. The initial studies demonstrating flora differences date well over 20 years. It was in fact probably a pop science article in some mass media outlet poorly citing one of those papers that got the ball rolling for this…

Post by eatbitseveryday » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 5:46 PM UTC

irrational wrote: post #131

tomp wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another thing you might never have thought about, but might be real (subject of recent and ongoing research): women incorporating DNA from men's sperm into their bodies. Search "microchimerism" with "sperm", e.g. [1]. (There's probably more instances of "sharing DNA from close encounters", but this one is particularly easy to research simply by checking for Y chromosome in women's bodies.) [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.ni…

That's interesting. This is totally off the wall, but I've noticed that many long time couples start to look like each other. I've assumed it was from environmental factors, but what if there was some biological basis as well? Crazy to think about.

Post by samstave » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 7:37 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #77

kazinator wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely, that depends on how you frame it? Tossing three coins doesn't increase the odds of any one of them being heads, surely enough. But tossing them at the same time as a single combined trial, instead of just one coin, does increase the odds of at least one heads showing up from 50 to 87.5%. Of course, you're going to have all those vaccines anyway and so the odds are the same overall for those administrations. J…

Once again, the question of whether multiple simultaneous vaccinations increases adverse effects is well studied, and the verdict is that they do not. It doesn't seem to me like trying to reason to the contrary axiomatically is going to get you anywhere.

Post by braindeath » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 7:41 PM UTC

samstave wrote: post #137

braindeath wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> group that developed the gut biome to be able to eat cheese/dairy Why would one need to "develop" a gut biome to eat cheese/dairy? Have you ever heard of breast-feeding? Yes, you may be surprised to hear that even Asians can breast feed. What you seem to be thinking about is lactose intolerance, which is not due to a gut biome issue but due to genetic or environmental factor causing a deficiency of lactase, a prote…

Sure dude: adult lactase persistence in ancient skeletons in Northern Europe, Scandinavia, southern France and elsewhere. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/12/27/168144785/an...