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Caesarean babies have different gut bacteria, microbiome study finds

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Post by extipion »

samstave wrote: post #116
tptacek wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are making a different claim than the parent. Their point is that simply from a scheduling perspective , and stipulating some adverse reaction from some vaccine, simultaneous vaccination maximizes the likelihood that you're going to experience that reaction at that specific time . Your argument is that your kids feel crappy after they're vaccinated... so you get them vaccinated in 3 different stages. No matter wh…

No, I have three daughters. I paid fucking attention, So, the one daughter whom had all of her vaccines at once was the only one of the three who had an adverse was one of three... The other two daughters who had shit split up were not adversely affected So literally A/B testing my kids. And to top it off, did you see my comment abt my brother being one of the top doctors in the nation,here is him (and yes I’m going…

So that’s a test with a sample size of 3. You can not conclude anything meaningful from this. Med creeds aside, if you have any research creeds you’d know this isn’t particularly powerful.

I have a 2nd cousin that is a fantastic doctor. I also happen to be a doctor, like a bunch of others around here. Not to insult your brother in any way, but I’ve never heard of him until now. Also looking on Scopus, while he may be doing great things in the service of the VA, he does not seem to be a researcher.

Edit: also why do you think making a generalization shitting on “the doctors” that “don’t give a crap” to just follow up with an appeal to your brother “the doctor” strengthens what you’re saying in any way? I can assure you most pediatricians do give a crap (appealing to my own years of working with many), and if yours doesn’t I encourage you to find a new one.

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Post by rolltiide »

iyw wrote: post #66
User23 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HPV can cause mouth and throat cancer[1]. [1] https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/sexual-health/can-oral-sex-give...

So that would be HPV causing cancer. Not cunnilingus. If you are insinuating that the transmission of HPV is through cunnilingus then fine. But stating a direct causation is careless.

everyone here is insinuating that the transmission of HPV is through cunnilingus in this context

Ask yourself, why are you missing this context or being intentionally obtuse? you aren’t smarter or deemed as smarter for pointing out the obvious that other transmission methods are possible, everyone already knows that and is still enjoying these euphemisms because of their relatable conscious decision to give head. Curious what the thought process was here

Re: Caesarean babies have different gut bacteria, microbiome study finds

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Post by aszantu »

jaynetics wrote: post #108
aszantu wrote: post #103

I was depressed for half my life, I read on gut microbiome about 5 years ago(swapping the gut microbiome of mices changes their character) but didn't put it together until I switched my diet to meat only. Any kind of sugar seems to trigger depression for me, that sadly means that I can't eat plants. And current push for plant based diets worries me a lot. I was a C-Section baby.

Eating only meat is a serious health risk. There are other sources of protein, and many vegetables that go very well with a low carb diet.

just like I said, the moment I eat anything containing fiber or sugar, depression comes crashing back. Making me want to die and stuff like that.

Re: Caesarean babies have different gut bacteria, microbiome study finds

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Post by aszantu »

bpanon wrote: post #109
aszantu wrote: post #103

I was depressed for half my life, I read on gut microbiome about 5 years ago(swapping the gut microbiome of mices changes their character) but didn't put it together until I switched my diet to meat only. Any kind of sugar seems to trigger depression for me, that sadly means that I can't eat plants. And current push for plant based diets worries me a lot. I was a C-Section baby.

You can’t eat spinach or broccoli?

nope

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Post by spraak »

davidsong wrote: post #71
giarc wrote: post #17

This has been known for quite a while, basically passing through the non sterile vaginal canal vs the sterile (or close to it) abdominal wall yields differences. This has lead to some questionable practices such as "vaginal seeding" whereby new moms will swab their vagina and then seed their babies shortly after birth (usually through placing the gauze in babies mouth or around their face). This comes up not infreque…

This is about gut bacteria and debunks the practice of vaginal seeding. I remember my friend and father of five crudely telling an expectant mother that "first comes the poo, then comes the baby" and thinking he was joking until I saw it for myself. This discovery will likely lead to a surge of people intentionally shitting on newborns.

> This discovery will likely lead to a surge of people intentionally shitting on newborns.

I am doubtful you really believe that, and it's an untasteful joke.

Re: Caesarean babies have different gut bacteria, microbiome study finds

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Post by braindeath »

samstave wrote: post #41
erikrothoff wrote: post #5

My twin brother was born by caesarean. He gets asthma attacks from allergies that I don’t have. I’ve wondered for a while what effect a faecal transplant could have...

If you decide to do this, please document heavily and report back on results. Anecdotally, I am Norwegian genetically, and it has been said that the scandanavians are the group that developed the gut biome to be able to eat cheese/dairy - and I eat a TON of cheese each year (and I suffer no ill affects (I’m super lean and tall and skinny)) Whereas one of my exes was Asian and would get IBS whenever she ate cheese.

> group that developed the gut biome to be able to eat cheese/dairy

Why would one need to "develop" a gut biome to eat cheese/dairy? Have you ever heard of breast-feeding? Yes, you may be surprised to hear that even Asians can breast feed.

What you seem to be thinking about is lactose intolerance, which is not due to a gut biome issue but due to genetic or environmental factor causing a deficiency of lactase, a protein, after infancy. Lactase persistence is not common in many ethnic groups.

There is evidence that a biome habituated to certain strains of lactobacillus can allow those that would otherwise be intolerant to become tolerant, but that has nothing to do with the cause of lactose intolerance.

> Whereas one of my exes was Asian and would get IBS whenever she ate cheese.

IBS is a functional digestive pain syndrome. It has nothing to do with lactose intolerance. For someone epeening about their medical knowledge, you seem to know very little to back it up.

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Post by tomp »

irrational wrote: post #47
Syzygies wrote: post #40

Many of us Caesarian babies didn't get "vaginal seeding" at birth, but have been trying to catch up ever since.

You joke, and are being downvoted, but I had never ever thought about cunnilingus affecting ones gut biome. Is that ridiculous or even possible?

Another thing you might never have thought about, but might be real (subject of recent and ongoing research): women incorporating DNA from men's sperm into their bodies. Search "microchimerism" with "sperm", e.g. [1]. (There's probably more instances of "sharing DNA from close encounters", but this one is particularly easy to research simply by checking for Y chromosome in women's bodies.)

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27623703

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