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The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by emiliobumachar »

ineedasername wrote: post #48
toomuchtodo wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t go away, it’s just not public. This is to comply with copyright law. It’s still safely stored on disk.

Okay, if they have no choice in it then I understand. But as for keeping a copy on disk that practically no one can ever see, to me that strikes seems like a distinction without a difference.

It's not a binary fact of having a choice or not. A less restrictive policy would bring a load of frivolous copyright and/or trademark encroachment. Fighting it would be a worthy fight, but would divert resources away from their core mission of archiving, which is hard enough on its own.

AFAIK they're thinking of the historical record for future generations, and present access is a sacrificeable side benefit.

Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by [deleted] »

diggan wrote: post #54
ineedasername wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, if they have no choice in it then I understand. But as for keeping a copy on disk that practically no one can ever see, to me that strikes seems like a distinction without a difference.

I'm pretty sure you can visit the building that Internet Archive operates from ( https://archive.org/about/contact.php ) and freely surf/look at all the content, even the content that is not available from the web version.

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Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by Swenrekcah »

taborj wrote: post #49
Swenrekcah wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the defining aspects of both the Brexit campaign and Trumpism is blatant disregard for facts and the delibirate spread of misinformation that is heavy on one side, and an order or two of magnitude less on the other side. That just is the way of it, however sad that is. It is not the first time that states use misinformation as effective attacks on other states, but that doesn’t mean it should be left unchallen…

that is heavy on one side, and an order or two of magnitude less on the other side I disagree with this assertion. I think both sides are equally guilty of this, but on different topics, which can make apples to apples comparisons difficult. For example, take a look at the numbers behind gun laws and deaths in the US, and you'll find misinformation propagated by the left. If you look at climate change information, yo…

I agree but I specifically mentioned the topics of Brexit and the admittetly broader ‘Trumpism’. On these topics the asymmetry is phenomenal. Take the recent ‘sharpiegate’ as an example for how little regard, contempt even, Trump has for the truth and facts.

Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by eli »

gwern wrote: post #6
haunter wrote: post #2

Does anyone how the Internet Archive get a bypass on DMCA? It's full of pirated games for example. I'm aware that it's one thing to archive something but anyone can download it as well, so it's essentially distribution too. Just curious how does it work. Personally that's how I get old SNES, NES, DS games.

The IA actually has a DMCA exemption for the pirated games: https://archive.org/about/dmca.php

Pretty sure that temporary exemption expired and was not renewed.

Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by jMyles »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #39
ineedasername wrote: post #34

I like that the internet archive exists, but I don't like how they implement their opt-out policy. Sites can opt-out at any time, which I suppose is the correct thing to allow, but once they opt out then everything the Archive has gathered up to that point also goes away, which seems wrong.

It doesn’t go away, it’s just not public. This is to comply with copyright law. It’s still safely stored on disk.

> This is to comply with copyright law.

If that's true, it will be a better resource for humanity if it charts a way to be hosted in a jurisdiction where copyright law doesn't require this kind of censorship.

Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by hcorGJ »

calderarrow wrote: post #32
s9w wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"the 45th president’s often-contradictory statements"

Often is subjective, but he does contradict himself a number of times greater than 0. http://www.trumpcriticizestrump.com/

WE'RE often SUBJECTIVE!
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