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The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by magashna »

madmulligan wrote: post #28
haunter wrote: post #2

Does anyone how the Internet Archive get a bypass on DMCA? It's full of pirated games for example. I'm aware that it's one thing to archive something but anyone can download it as well, so it's essentially distribution too. Just curious how does it work. Personally that's how I get old SNES, NES, DS games.

They don't. They do this with their Great 78 project as well. The way they go about borrowing collections, digitizing them, then returning them (which in itself is illegal reproduction), and then posting them online (also breaking copyright laws), is very sketchy. In in addition it is frustrating to watch (I hesitate to say "unfair") them do this when, say, university or publicly funded archives cannot get away with…

It's not "sketchy". Their DMCA page explains it and they respond to DMCAs with validity.

Now Youtube and their in-house pseudo DMCA is sketchy.

Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by calderarrow »

s9w wrote: post #29
anarchy8 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thankfully, nobody cares what you think.

"the 45th president’s often-contradictory statements"

Often is subjective, but he does contradict himself a number of times greater than 0. http://www.trumpcriticizestrump.com/

Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

s9w wrote: post #29
anarchy8 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thankfully, nobody cares what you think.

"the 45th president’s often-contradictory statements"

Even if you're a fan, you gotta admit, dude talks in circles. It's not a hit piece to point out an obvious and well documented behaviour.

Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by ineedasername »

I like that the internet archive exists, but I don't like how they implement their opt-out policy. Sites can opt-out at any time, which I suppose is the correct thing to allow, but once they opt out then everything the Archive has gathered up to that point also goes away, which seems wrong.

Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by hugh4life »

Extremely lame article...

I remember back 10 years ago either google or the internet archive had a temporary search engine that went through the wayback machine... and a lot of interesting things were found. It was through this IIRC that it was discovered that Obama filled out a questionnaire in 1996 saying he supported same-sex marriage when that was not his public position at the time. I've always wondered why that search engine went away and who currently has access to do such searches.

Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by ineedasername »

tpmx wrote: post #17
kd3 wrote: post #3

These guys are heroes.

I used to think that. Then I tried volunteering via their IRC channel and was met with some next level hostility. My read is: a) They're doing a job that needs to be done. b) They're relatively flush with cash from donors c) They're not nearly as efficient as they could be. d) The people there seemed more concerned about competition than collaboration. e) Probably most controversial: The organization seems like it ha…

How did you approach them, what did you ask to help with? Not saying you did this, but there's a big difference between "hey folks, how can I help?" compared to "I noticed your page load times are ridiculous, I can get you to a place that isn't awful".

Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by magashna »

weberc2 wrote: post #19
SamBam wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What gives you the impression that they're "focusing on conservatives?" Do you have evidence for this statement? You mention archiving Trump's tweets. Do you think that they might do this because he is the President of the United States?

(I don't have a dog in this fight) From TFA: "The result is Trump and Brexit!" and generally the lack of anything disparaging toward the left. The article and the Internet Archive plainly isn't "focused on conservatives", but it sort of undermines its purported mission (commitment to preserving the truth) in the implication that conservatives are unique in espousing misinformation, even if the implication is unintent…

Wouldn't it be up to X side to submit links to IA? Also if a site opt-out and their historical data is wiped, that isn't IA's bias, it's the site choosing to opt-out.

Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by toomuchtodo »

ineedasername wrote: post #34

I like that the internet archive exists, but I don't like how they implement their opt-out policy. Sites can opt-out at any time, which I suppose is the correct thing to allow, but once they opt out then everything the Archive has gathered up to that point also goes away, which seems wrong.

It doesn’t go away, it’s just not public. This is to comply with copyright law. It’s still safely stored on disk.

Re: The Internet Archive is waging war on misinformation

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Post by naringas »

hugh4life wrote: post #35

Extremely lame article... I remember back 10 years ago either google or the internet archive had a temporary search engine that went through the wayback machine... and a lot of interesting things were found. It was through this IIRC that it was discovered that Obama filled out a questionnaire in 1996 saying he supported same-sex marriage when that was not his public position at the time. I've always wondered why that…

> who currently has access to do such searches.

my guess is intelligence agencies do

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