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Re: KaiOS

#51

I used the Nokia 8110 with KaiOS as a digital detox phone during holidays. It has working email, whats app, google map, hotspot. It has enough features to "survive" and answer or triage the occasional fires from work. And it is unusable enough that i don't use it for non important stuff (chatting, browsing, etc). Ironically its bad UI/UX is it's main selling point.

And that's exactly detoxing you from what? I mean it's got email, whatsapp, a browser, facebook probably... so what's the point?

Re: KaiOS

#52
post #4

The interesting takeaway here is: maybe Mozilla gave up on Firefox OS too early? It apparently found a market after all, albeit as a fork.

Mozilla took the slowest HTML rendering engine there is and created a whole OS using it. Then they proceeded to run it on the worst mobile hardware there was at the time.

Then competent engineers forked it into KaiOS and it became a success.

Re: KaiOS

#53

> As of February 2018, KaiOS Technologies has partnered with Airfind, Facebook, Google, Twitter... The Nokia KaiOS devices come with built in Google services, which instantly disqualify them for me. I don't trust that information from those phones aren't being seeded to Google.

Note that most KaiOS devices can be flashed with GerdaOS[1], which claims to be more privacy focused.

1: https://gerda.tech/

Re: KaiOS

#54
post #37

I have an Alcatel GO Flip stuck on KaiOS 1.0. It's terrible. I have to reboot the phone at least once a day or it slows down to the point where the UI doesn't respond to certain events, such as initiating a call. The UI and functionality would be nice if not for the bugs. Maybe they have fixed a bunch of them in later releases, but my provider isn't providing updates.

I recently got the same phone! Mine doesn't crash, but what amazes me is how slow it is -- The flip phone(s) from circa '05-'08 that I had been using weren't fast, but this Alcatel / KaiOS feels like it's running an interpreter in a virtual machine and waiting for network roundtrips on every keystroke ... I mean i'm exaggerating but the lag for all my actions is a real bummer.

Re: KaiOS

#55

KaiOS supports WhatsApp in India, but not everywhere else yet. That’s probably the one application keeping me on a smartphone.

It is supported now and installable via the Kaios AppStore. I got Whatsapp running on my nokia 8110 4G, after some fiddling and updating.

Thanks, it didn't seem to be last time I checked. I should see how it works.

Re: KaiOS

#56
Not a KaiOS user, but I am a daily flip-phone user on a Kyocera DuraXTP running Brew MP. In my flip-phone dreams, the features I would love out of an OS would be:

  * Obviously, calling/texting.
  * A fast, minimal app that served as a phone book.
  * GPS with voice assistant.
  * An Uber or Lyft app.
  * That's it.
In short, the things that are very useful in an emergency-type situation.

I can't imagine there are that may others like me, but the lack of GPS and ride-hailing are the two things that occasionally make me consider going back to having a smartphone.

Re: KaiOS

#57
post #20
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm very tempted to buy Nokia 8770, but I can't confirm it supports a WiFi hotspot.

Did you type the number wrong? I'm not finding an 8770. GSMArena.com is the place to look for specs, in my opinion. https://www.gsmarena.com/res.php3?sSearch=nokia+8770

must be talking about the 8110

Re: KaiOS

#58
post #20
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm very tempted to buy Nokia 8770, but I can't confirm it supports a WiFi hotspot.

Did you type the number wrong? I'm not finding an 8770. GSMArena.com is the place to look for specs, in my opinion. https://www.gsmarena.com/res.php3?sSearch=nokia+8770

I was wrong. I meant the 8810 - The Banana phone.

Re: KaiOS

#59
post #51

I used the Nokia 8110 with KaiOS as a digital detox phone during holidays. It has working email, whats app, google map, hotspot. It has enough features to "survive" and answer or triage the occasional fires from work. And it is unusable enough that i don't use it for non important stuff (chatting, browsing, etc). Ironically its bad UI/UX is it's main selling point.

And that's exactly detoxing you from what? I mean it's got email, whatsapp, a browser, facebook probably... so what's the point?

you can do these things, but there's enough friction that you won't do it unless you have a good reason

Re: KaiOS

#60
post #9

If only there was a nice feature phone with KaiOS in Europe. Nokia 8110 sucks because of the sliding panel which makes it much harder to type on the bottom key row. T9 seemed to be worse than on other Nokia phones. I would love to see a new Nokia 3310 with KaiOS.

omg yes, the typing is terrible, it even produces repeating keys somehow. Just got one and sent it back within 24h, turns out that the battery life was a lie too. I drained 70-80% in 20 hours while not being actively used. They are coming out with a few more feature phones soon btw: the 2720 Flip, 220 4g & 800 Tough. Look nice, but I suspect the battery life is shit too. And you get a lot of crapware you cannot remov…

I don't know if it's your case, but I think battery charge usually isn't reliable fir the first 2 or 3 charges, until it's calibrated.
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