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Re: KaiOS

#11

Post by holstvoogd »

slykar wrote: post #9

If only there was a nice feature phone with KaiOS in Europe. Nokia 8110 sucks because of the sliding panel which makes it much harder to type on the bottom key row. T9 seemed to be worse than on other Nokia phones. I would love to see a new Nokia 3310 with KaiOS.

omg yes, the typing is terrible, it even produces repeating keys somehow.

Just got one and sent it back within 24h, turns out that the battery life was a lie too. I drained 70-80% in 20 hours while not being actively used.

They are coming out with a few more feature phones soon btw: the 2720 Flip, 220 4g & 800 Tough.

Look nice, but I suspect the battery life is shit too. And you get a lot of crapware you cannot remove. (Game demo even)

Re: KaiOS

#12

Post by keymone »

5trokerac3 wrote: post #8

> As of February 2018, KaiOS Technologies has partnered with Airfind, Facebook, Google, Twitter... The Nokia KaiOS devices come with built in Google services, which instantly disqualify them for me. I don't trust that information from those phones aren't being seeded to Google.

What are mainstream options then? Apart from Apple obviously.

Re: KaiOS

#13

Post by holstvoogd »

5trokerac3 wrote: post #8

> As of February 2018, KaiOS Technologies has partnered with Airfind, Facebook, Google, Twitter... The Nokia KaiOS devices come with built in Google services, which instantly disqualify them for me. I don't trust that information from those phones aren't being seeded to Google.

Yeah it's pretty bad. You can't even uninstall them and it drains the battery in 20h instead of days.

Also, you get some other crap pre-installed that cannot be removed: a few demo's of games & twitter a.o.

Re: KaiOS

#14

Post by coconut_crab »

The new Nokia tough phone has just what I need: 4G, GPS, water and dust proof, minus all the distraction of a smart phone. It's a pity I can't build my own version of Firefox OS for it, the close integration of Google service makes me wary of using it ..

Re: KaiOS

#15

Post by shifto »

throwre434234 wrote: post #10
5trokerac3 wrote: post #8

> As of February 2018, KaiOS Technologies has partnered with Airfind, Facebook, Google, Twitter... The Nokia KaiOS devices come with built in Google services, which instantly disqualify them for me. I don't trust that information from those phones aren't being seeded to Google.

Can't upvote this enough. There is already very little accountability or awareness about what Google Services do behind the scenes. You make a call, your phone connects to 1e100.net; you change some settings, your phone connects to 1e100.net. It's insane that no one seems to be paying attention to any of these.

Where did you get this from? I just checked my local DNS server and my home devices have never attempted to connect to this domain even though I have quite a few android devices.

Re: KaiOS

#16

Post by 5trokerac3 »

keymone wrote: post #12
5trokerac3 wrote: post #8

> As of February 2018, KaiOS Technologies has partnered with Airfind, Facebook, Google, Twitter... The Nokia KaiOS devices come with built in Google services, which instantly disqualify them for me. I don't trust that information from those phones aren't being seeded to Google.

What are mainstream options then? Apart from Apple obviously.

The Nokia 3110 3G reboot[0] that came out in 2017 is pre KaiOS. It works on US GSM networks (T-Mobile, AT&T). It has Twitter and FB apps you can't uninstall, but they're custom rolled ones that just open the website.

[0] https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_3310_3g-8876.php

Re: KaiOS

#17

Post by projektfu »

KaiOS supports WhatsApp in India, but not everywhere else yet. That’s probably the one application keeping me on a smartphone.

Re: KaiOS

#18

Post by opencl »

celliopia wrote: post #3
mikece wrote: post #2

While I really like the idea of a feature phone that can has some smarts, can function as a WiFi hotspot, and has battery life to allow charging only once a week, if there's no ability to write apps that are compiled to binary code then I have to wonder how much the JavaScript VM powering aps is going to drain the battery compared to an app that was written in C/C++.

Given the target devices for KaiOS, wouldn't AOT compiled apps have the problem of not being sure which CPU will be supported? It's probably not as big of an issue today but at the inexpensive, low-power side of the spectrum there might be a diversity of CPUs within a year or two... is KaiOS going to host compiler services in the cloud to dynamically compile apps for the myriad possible CPUs out there? While consumin…

Doesn't stop people from shipping native binaries on Android. Developers who care about the 0.1% of the market not using ARM just include multiple binaries.

Re: KaiOS

#19

Post by Abishek_Muthian »

projektfu wrote: post #17

KaiOS supports WhatsApp in India, but not everywhere else yet. That’s probably the one application keeping me on a smartphone.

That's likely cause of exclusivity agreement between KaiOS and Jio. Besides, Reliance (the parent of Jio) is an investor in KaiOS, so is Google.

Re: KaiOS

#20

Post by mikece »

captn3m0 wrote: post #7
mikece wrote: post #2

While I really like the idea of a feature phone that can has some smarts, can function as a WiFi hotspot, and has battery life to allow charging only once a week, if there's no ability to write apps that are compiled to binary code then I have to wonder how much the JavaScript VM powering aps is going to drain the battery compared to an app that was written in C/C++.

I'm very tempted to buy Nokia 8770, but I can't confirm it supports a WiFi hotspot.

Did you type the number wrong? I'm not finding an 8770. GSMArena.com is the place to look for specs, in my opinion.

https://www.gsmarena.com/res.php3?sSearch=nokia+8770

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