United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

Post by jstewartmobile » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 10:58 PM UTC

weare138 wrote: post #308

jstewartmobile wrote: post #277

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I'll add this to samstave's cause: I read something by Yoichi Shimatsu (a while back) that was along the same lines of what samstave originally posted. Shimatsu tied MIT and the pedo ring together through Nicholas Negroponte and Bernard Krisher. Didn't really believe it at the time. Yet in the light of 2019--after Saville, Rochdale, Epstein, and all of these CSAIL guys >>knowingly Then to read with shock and disbelie…

No offense, but what does this have to do with Snowden?

Post by TheOperator » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 11:02 PM UTC

elhudy wrote: post #303

xodice wrote: post #284

Jesus, who the fuck cares about what Snowden released. I am more sad people aren't way up in arms about WHAT WE LEARNED. (Yes, I understand that sentence makes itself not make sense, but you get my point. Rushed and on mobile, but this pissed me off.) Thank you Snowden, and fuck you U.S. Government. - A U.S. Citizen

Snowden "...carefully evaluated every single document I disclosed to ensure that each was legitimately in the public interest. There are all sorts of documents that would have made a big impact that I didn't turn over" What was released (and how), and what we learned are two separate issues. As a U.S. citizen, it's preferable that the subjective legitimacy of what best serves public interest is not in the hands of ON…

Post by elhudy » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 11:12 PM UTC

cwkoss wrote: post #310

elhudy wrote: post #303

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Snowden "...carefully evaluated every single document I disclosed to ensure that each was legitimately in the public interest. There are all sorts of documents that would have made a big impact that I didn't turn over" What was released (and how), and what we learned are two separate issues. As a U.S. citizen, it's preferable that the subjective legitimacy of what best serves public interest is not in the hands of ON…

Snowdens most fundamental job requirement was to uphold the US constitution. He tried to stop gross constitutional violations from within using the official processes and was ignored. He is the greatest American hero of our era for sacrificing his own freedom to protect the nation. The NSA employees who are 'just following orders' are little better than Nazi footsolders in 1940s Germany. Their continued violation of…

Post by soraminazuki » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 11:13 PM UTC

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The real problem is that the NSA not only routinely ignores issues raised by whistleblowers, but actively retaliates against them for trying to blow the whistle on illicit activities. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/22/how-pentagon...

Yes, that was what I was referring to when I said that one probably shouldn't have relied on those protections. However, it doesn't change the fact that he stole a tremendous amount of classified material that had nothing to do with what he felt civil liberties issues. Also doesn't change the fact that the Russian government outright admitted that Snowden shared Intel with them (according to the house Intel committee…

Post by 4ntonius8lock » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 11:18 PM UTC

txcwpalpha wrote: post #278

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It's worth noting that "Standard Mail" has a specific meaning here, and refers to things sent in bulk, like newsletters and flyers. It is emphatically not the standard service you would use to mail your aunt a letter. That service is called First Class Mail, and is not to be opened.

That's incorrect. "Standard mail" is the type of mail service used for anything that isn't one of the other named mail services, such as First Class or Priority Mail. Things sent in bulk, such as flyers, are an example of standard mail, but that does not preclude anyone from using standard mail to send a normal letter.