100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web

Post by r-w » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 5:37 AM UTC

julien wrote: post #85

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There's probably a different cryptocurrency for each user on HN, certainly enough for people to argue over until the end of time. Perhaps it's as simple as this: 1) Make adding a box to pay a website in your crypto easier than adding google analytics or facebook share links. 2) Make buying small amount of your crypto easier than anyone else's crypto. 3) Give lots of your crypto away to as many folks as possible to pu…

https://unlock-protocol.com ;) [disclaimer: I made this!]

Post by AndrewKemendo » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 5:56 AM UTC

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This is the same as saying "Define Pornography." You're asking for a bulletproof formula that doesn't exist. That doesn't mean we can't take a pretty good bite out of it. How about this: Any action taken by an individual or organization with the intent of influencing another individual to execute a commercial transaction. No billboards, TV commercials, newspaper advertisements, hyperbolic statements about products. I…

> Any action taken by an individual or organization with the intent of influencing another individual to execute a commercial transaction. That definition pretty much boils down to every interaction between businesses and individuals, ever. Any kind of negotiating or sales or communication..

Post by Kiro » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 6:03 AM UTC

JoshTriplett wrote: post #66

Kiro wrote: post #15

I liked Coinhive but despised that 99% used it for malevolent things. I do like the idea of letting my computer do some proof of work for a few seconds to unlock an article. It's like doing a micro payment with your electricity bill, anonymously and without any setup.

In any world in which work that a browser can do in a few seconds will make any appreciable amount of money, someone can make more money by throwing a server or GPU or dedicated hardware at it, and the browser's few seconds of work stops having value.

Post by Qworg » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 6:12 AM UTC

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I think what you're missing is that discretionary spending is not all spending, and marketing budgets are a percentage of all spending. When I go to CNN.com right now, I see ads for Tide pods and Toyota SUVs. That ad spend came from our supermarket and car payments, which you can't redirect to tipping websites unless you want to stop eating and driving to work. My argument is basically that no web monetization plan t…

General shoutout to anyone who's less lazy than me: has there been any good research on whether or not advertising increases discretionary spending, and if so by how much? The Tide example here makes me feel a little bit weird, because Tide pods in particular are a pretty bad deal for laundry detergent. If people are buying Tide pods instead of generic laundry detergent, it seems to me that the advertising isn't just…

Post by cpeterso » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 6:27 AM UTC

FreeHugs wrote: post #3

It's crazy, that we still do not have something like "Cash" on the internet. A simple, anonymous way to pay 10 cent or so. To use a website or read an article. That would make the world so much better for indie developers. Currently, an indie dev makes orders of magnitude less money per pageview then Google, Facebook and Co. Because those have all that advertising technology and ecosystem that indie devs don't have.…