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People are actually demanding 5G? (Or is that hype, trying to make people think that other people are demanding it?) I can only think of one conversation I've had in which 5G was even mentioned, but boy, I know people here in rural Canada would like affordable data plans, and I don't see that 5G is going to help at all.
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In my experience, you never get that outside of the town centre. 10mbps cap in the suburb on 4G. Anyway, this doesn't really highlight how good our 4G is, it highlights how poor our interconnected fibre network is. It's a bloody multi-generational disaster, a train wreck salvaged. And the price of it all lands on the consumers. For example, I'm on cable, and life is good. When I get migrated (by force) to fibre, I wi…
It depends where you are. I just did a speed test in the suburbs on a Telstra reseller and got 118MBit, which IME is par for the course around Perth and suburbs. That speed is just double the maximum line speed of my FTTN NBN connection at the same property (but I keep it anyway as household data usage on 4G is uneconomical).
At a constant 118 MBit/s I calculate that you'd go through over 50 GB per hour, so the usefulness is limited.
Should be noted that one stated advantage of 5G over 4G is latency, which is certainly a component of determining what is “faster.”
Medium (wireless vs copper vs fiber) defines who is faster.
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Australia has the Telstra "4GX" and Optus "4G plus" networks - it's AU 4G with its own spectrum and band aggregation. I have seen gigabit speeds on 4GX - once, when it was new and the spectrum was hardly used. Since the reports are quoting real world maximums, I'm sure that number is true - but doesn't reflect your average experience.
IIRC the largest ISP in Australia is Vodafone who provide more mobile IP connectivity than anyone else. (Source: Personal discussion with senior management, ~5? years ago)
They only started providing wireline services very recently, one of the few "western" markets they were not a full telco player in.
Well I don't know about faster than 5G, but for my rural location it's a lifesaver. I get a steady 60Mbps down, 12-15 up, which is just a tad better than my previous 0.3Mbps ADSL. It's kind of amazing and is literally what enables me to live where I do (ie. for remote work). 4g here is also far better than the shithouse fake NBN foisted on us by our far-right government, which loathes and fears any technology more re…
The nbn from its conception was a half-baked, last minute idea made up by Kevin Rudd. If any public network was needed, it should have been wireless. The nbn discounted any possible future that resulted in wireless being a viable way of delivering the internet to everyone. Wireless is also necessary because things aren’t stationary. Cars can’t use fiber internet, for example. Fiber to every home is ridiculously expensive, with a large percentage of homes not even using any more bandwidth than is required to stream Netflix. Fiber also excludes rural areas, and any lower density areas in general.
A public wireless network would be utilised much more, as even a lower speed wireless network that is available everywhere and cheaper opens up more possibilities than a limited high speed network. It isn’t just speed that is important. We also have the issue of data caps. High speed connections that have 20gb per month data caps are pretty useless, yet a large percentage of the population can’t afford any more than that. The nbn, whether fiber or not, would always just result in a product a large percentage of normal people couldn’t even utilise.
The liberal party made the nbn worse, but it was a terrible idea to begin with. All the political parties are corrupt.
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Australia has the Telstra "4GX" and Optus "4G plus" networks - it's AU 4G with its own spectrum and band aggregation. I have seen gigabit speeds on 4GX - once, when it was new and the spectrum was hardly used. Since the reports are quoting real world maximums, I'm sure that number is true - but doesn't reflect your average experience.
IIRC the largest ISP in Australia is Vodafone who provide more mobile IP connectivity than anyone else. (Source: Personal discussion with senior management, ~5? years ago)
Telstra's mobile footprint is vastly superior to the other two MNOs in terms of geographic coverage.
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It depends where you are. I just did a speed test in the suburbs on a Telstra reseller and got 118MBit, which IME is par for the course around Perth and suburbs. That speed is just double the maximum line speed of my FTTN NBN connection at the same property (but I keep it anyway as household data usage on 4G is uneconomical).
Uneconomical because 4G doesn't compete in price for data allowances, once you are using more than 50 GB or so per month? At a constant 118 MBit/s I calculate that you'd go through over 50 GB per hour, so the usefulness is limited.
I suspect that part of the reason that 4G is so good in Australia is that data allowances are relatively small which limits congestion.
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Good post until the last sentence! NBN history is far more interesting than that! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Broadband_Network
I have to say that it's interesting in the way that watching something be destroyed is interesting. Being stuck inside it is not interesting, it's horrifying and depressing. I moved into an apartment that was built with NBN Fibre to every apartment. I moved here and paid a premium for it because I wanted to get a head-start on the FTTH rollout we were promised. Instead of the promised ability to move just about anywh…
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I used redpocket.com for a plan for my Nokia 3310 3G. I think it was $10 a month.
How do you like the Nokia 3310 3G? Have been tempted to buy one of those (or the 8110 4G bananaphone), main hesitation is around losing Signal and maps(?) though I understand there are ways to sideload an old version of Google Maps to the 3310.