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Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by mattmanser »

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #264
ses1984 wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>need? "Need" doesn't factor into it. People want the latest and greatest.

At this point, if I don't have a phone with a good camera, I'll have to go buy a new standalone camera- probably a point&shoot- in order to satiate my need for documentation and taking photos of my kids. Also, nobody here seems to mention convenience - carrying around a smart phone is a great replacement for the calculator, watch (possibly with an integrated stopwatch, if you don't get anything too fancy,) walkie-tal…

Yes, but apart from the camera even a $20 phone can do almost all of those functions.

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IkmoIkmo wrote: post #187
tablethnuser wrote: post #20

I've been using the budget Moto G+ line for the past four years. I can upgrade my phone every year around Black Friday and get the latest model for sub $200. The older phones still work well and get handed down to my less tech savvy family members. I'm not really sure what people are paying for when they get those $800+ beasts for phones. When I use a friend's I can tell they are higher quality; either they feel more…

Great points, although I would want to add a bit of nuance from my personal experience. One thing that often gets overlooked in pricing is depreciation. Flagship models tend to keep their value quite well, whereas budget models depreciate to next to nothing. Take the iPhone X, launched 2 years ago, used it's around $570 today, versus the $999 it launched at. Meanwhile, a $300 phone tends to drop down to $100 on the 2…

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

CDSlice wrote: post #224
lostgame wrote: post #216

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

Is Apple really not listening to it's customers, or just not listening to a small, vocal subset? I've really only heard complaints about the touchbar from software devs, which are not Apple's main customers. Apple's main customers are creatives and people that want to spend a lot of money for what amounts to a well made (MacBook pro keyboard issues notwithstanding), functional status symbols. Making a smaller, cheape…

There are 26 million software developers in the world, virtually all of them own a work or personal laptop (many both), and they have a much higher percentage of owning Macs vs the normal distribution.

Apple "only" sells 18M laptops a year. Software developers likely account for 1/4th (or more) of their MacBook sales.

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Post by dwheeler »

iamnotacrook wrote: post #182
stuff4ben wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I don't get the headphone jack obsession either. Bluetooth has been perfect for me and frees me from the cord. I can't stand tangled up cords that tickle my neck as I'm trying to listen to music.

Bluetooth is perfect for you if you like going back to pre 1985 audio quality. Some of us like CD quality, and it's kind of funny that in 2019 the only way to get close to that (without a headphone socket, anyway), is using aptx-hd supported phones/headphones.

There you go. In general Bluetooth provides lower-quality audio. In addition, in my experience Bluetooth is pretty much always laggy, which is a problem for conference calls. Finally, I feel far more confident about the security of wired communication, and rather dubious of Bluetooth security. There are already many well-known serious Bluetooth culnerabilities, and I expect that there will be more. I keep Bluetooth off as much as I can... it's hard to exploit when it's off.

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Post by eyegor »

tablethnuser wrote: post #20

I've been using the budget Moto G+ line for the past four years. I can upgrade my phone every year around Black Friday and get the latest model for sub $200. The older phones still work well and get handed down to my less tech savvy family members. I'm not really sure what people are paying for when they get those $800+ beasts for phones. When I use a friend's I can tell they are higher quality; either they feel more…

> I'm not really sure what people are paying for when they get those $800+ beasts for phones

As someone with a painfully expensive phone, for me it was mostly down to the combination: 1) full radio support for us carriers (which also pulls along a decent chunk of europe gsm), 2) SD card support, 3) a headphone jack, 4) some level of waterproofing, 5) enough popularity that I expect to be able to root and install patches once it stops getting official patches. In that order.

That list narrowed me down to a very tiny selection of phones.

Edit: There are now many more options (and cheaper) than when I bought my phone. :sadface:

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

robocat wrote: post #212
secfirstmd wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also let's not forget security updates in relation to Android phones...A two year old phone today, two years down the line may well not be receiving them

1. New Android phones are different: Android 9 was redesigned to make security updates by Google a lot easier. I have been buying Nokia which are getting good security upgrades/updates (and cost a few hundred USD). 2. Browsing on Android remains secure e.g. Android 4.4 is still getting Chrome updates (I think Chrome is generally more secure than Safari anyway). iPhones become insecure to use when they stop getting up…

The problem with HMD-Nokia is that most have a perma-locked bootloader. Otherwise, very nice phones.

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Post by metaphor »

It's ironic how the author chose to omit one of the last viable smartphones with both a headphone jack and QWERTY keypad that still receives regular security updates[1], yet includes one whose headphone pinout deviates from the rest of standardized industry.

[1] https://blackberrymobile.com/us/product/blackberry-key2/

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Post by cm2187 »

CDSlice wrote: post #224
lostgame wrote: post #216

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

Is Apple really not listening to it's customers, or just not listening to a small, vocal subset? I've really only heard complaints about the touchbar from software devs, which are not Apple's main customers. Apple's main customers are creatives and people that want to spend a lot of money for what amounts to a well made (MacBook pro keyboard issues notwithstanding), functional status symbols. Making a smaller, cheape…

Given the number of people I used to see in the street using the shitty quality earphones that were in the box with a new iphone, I think the reality is that most of Apple’s users don’t really give a shit about music quality in the first place.

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Post by guelo »

stevewodil wrote: post #257
lostgame wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> I really don't think you are Apple's target audience. I am a creative professional - which, historically, was a very important part of Apple’s user base; and the reason I still use their products. The ecosystem and workflow of using an iPhone or iPad to write a simple musical idea in GarageBand on the subway, and then finding it already on my iCloud on my MacBook Pro at home, so I can open it up in Logic and refin…

I'm a dev and like the touch bar. Ask me anything

When your hand accidentally touches that miniature touch screen and random things happen on your mac how do you control the urge to hurl it across a room?
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