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Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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If you do any kind of music creation on your mobile device, Bluetooth is completely unacceptable. When you push a key/knob, you want to hear the sound NOW, clearly. One of iOS selling points is music production, otherwise, save the money???

Thank you. Someone needed to say this. I’m sure some would argue that you could use the adapter - but do I really want to carry an adapter and have to find it within a moment of inspiration?

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Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

> They’ve killed the non Touch Bar MacBook Pro, while the industry laments the Touch Bar’s existence. ‘The industry’ is not Apple’s customer. Apple knows who they want their customers to be, and it makes the products that it knows they want. I’m mostly expecting them to release a smaller iPhone. But for most of your complaints and the same old complaints that get posted in every Apple thread on HN, Apple doesn’t care…

This comment is even less substantiated than its parent. Intuitively the nerds on HN don't represent the "real customers" of Apple, who as a big company, surely does market research. Yet Apple has gone on record several times claiming to bring products to market that customers don't know they need, eschewing market research.

Without posting any reviews or customer data, you assume that there is a large customer demand for touch bar-equipped laptop computers.

The plural of anecdotes isn't data, but the complete absence of adecdotes of people who love the touch bar says a lot.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

#253

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

The original SE was announced in a March event, so I assume its successor might appear six months from now.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

#254

If you do any kind of music creation on your mobile device, Bluetooth is completely unacceptable. When you push a key/knob, you want to hear the sound NOW, clearly. One of iOS selling points is music production, otherwise, save the money???

There is an adapter. It works just fine.

If you're a musician, you were probably also carrying around some 3.5 to quarter inch headphone adapters before this.

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post #201

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Great points, although I would want to add a bit of nuance from my personal experience. One thing that often gets overlooked in pricing is depreciation. Flagship models tend to keep their value quite well, whereas budget models depreciate to next to nothing. Take the iPhone X, launched 2 years ago, used it's around $570 today, versus the $999 it launched at. Meanwhile, a $300 phone tends to drop down to $100 on the 2…

you forgot to take into account that most phones are replaced because they break - usually their display gets smashed. In this case budget phones come ahead too: Let's say you drop your phone after 2 years of use. If you got an iPhone X you need to spend around $300 on a screen replacement or sell if for $200. If you got a 2 year old $300 phone you just buy a new for $300 (or do the replacement for $150.) But anyway…

> you forgot to take into account that most phones are replaced because they break - usually their display gets smashed.

Is that true? If so, how do you know it to be true?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> I really don't think you are Apple's target audience. I am a creative professional - which, historically, was a very important part of Apple’s user base; and the reason I still use their products. The ecosystem and workflow of using an iPhone or iPad to write a simple musical idea in GarageBand on the subway, and then finding it already on my iCloud on my MacBook Pro at home, so I can open it up in Logic and refin…

Just for record, I don't know any non-creative/developer who own macs. Anyone else does not like the touchbar. The same subsets care about headphone jacks or not. I'm 6'1" and think I have decent sized hands, I'd still prefer the 4S size if I could get it All that said, historically sure, but creative and/or professionals are not the target of a mainstream phone meant to sell millions of phones. I've given up dreamin…

Go to any college. Most people there buy Macs for simple note taking.

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Is Apple really not listening to it's customers, or just not listening to a small, vocal subset? I've really only heard complaints about the touchbar from software devs, which are not Apple's main customers. Apple's main customers are creatives and people that want to spend a lot of money for what amounts to a well made (MacBook pro keyboard issues notwithstanding), functional status symbols. Making a smaller, cheape…

>> I really don't think you are Apple's target audience. I am a creative professional - which, historically, was a very important part of Apple’s user base; and the reason I still use their products. The ecosystem and workflow of using an iPhone or iPad to write a simple musical idea in GarageBand on the subway, and then finding it already on my iCloud on my MacBook Pro at home, so I can open it up in Logic and refin…

I'm a dev and like the touch bar. Ask me anything

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

#258

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

The only reason I have an iPhone SE is because it's the only small-ish phone that's actually supported. I don't even like all this Apple iOS crap, but I just want a small phone for the 9 apps I use + phone and camera. I previously had a Sony XZ compact, but they stopped making those too :-/ (I got a the SE secondhand a few months ago).

This article calls the SE "tiny, aging, probably almost obsolete throwback", but I don't see what so bad about it? It works very well, IMHO.

I'd get a budget Android phone, but they're all freakin' huge.

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#259

I've been using the budget Moto G+ line for the past four years. I can upgrade my phone every year around Black Friday and get the latest model for sub $200. The older phones still work well and get handed down to my less tech savvy family members. I'm not really sure what people are paying for when they get those $800+ beasts for phones. When I use a friend's I can tell they are higher quality; either they feel more…

Great points, although I would want to add a bit of nuance from my personal experience. One thing that often gets overlooked in pricing is depreciation. Flagship models tend to keep their value quite well, whereas budget models depreciate to next to nothing. Take the iPhone X, launched 2 years ago, used it's around $570 today, versus the $999 it launched at. Meanwhile, a $300 phone tends to drop down to $100 on the 2…

> Take the iPhone X, launched 2 years ago, used it's around $570 today, versus the $999 it launched at. > Meanwhile, a $300 phone tends to drop down to $100 on the 2nd hand market two years later.

This means the iPhone X still had more than twice the effective cost ($429) than the other phone ($200). So it depends on whether the user thinks that it’s more than twice as useful.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you forgot to take into account that most phones are replaced because they break - usually their display gets smashed. In this case budget phones come ahead too: Let's say you drop your phone after 2 years of use. If you got an iPhone X you need to spend around $300 on a screen replacement or sell if for $200. If you got a 2 year old $300 phone you just buy a new for $300 (or do the replacement for $150.) But anyway…

> you forgot to take into account that most phones are replaced because they break - usually their display gets smashed. Is that true? If so, how do you know it to be true?

It's true, just confirmed.
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