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Re: Elevating original reporting in Search

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post #125

Authoritative seeming sources are not always a good thing. Anytime you search for a game guide/faq/hint you get drivel from the big name sites that are super short on content and have bad advice. Almost in all cases the content I’m looking for is in some tiny blog that barely ranks but matches all the search words.

> Authoritative seeming sources are not always a good thing. Yeah, but what if stupid people search for the wrong thing, find the wrong website and get infected with Wrongthink? Have you thought about that? Crushing amateur content creators and betraying all the ideals of the early Web is small price to pay for preventing that intolerable scenario.

i don’t think it’s a coincidence this is all happening before the 2020 election

Re: Elevating original reporting in Search

#142
post #32

Has anyone found that recently Google search is becoming more and more useless? Google tends to ignore what I actually type in, and tries to search according to some weird NLP machine learning inference on what it thinks I'm actually trying to ask. Top results will include maybe 50-75% of the words I actually typed in, and it will treat the rest as mere hints or related words. My queries end up looking like this afte…

Probably fallout from trying to juice the stagnating ad revenues. In a perfectly relevant search nobody would ever click on ads.

I heard from Bing engineers (circa '09-10) that every time Bing would release a relevance improvement, Google would increase their relevance metrics shortly thereafter, suggesting that their relevance is being artificially held back. It makes economic sense, and it'd be super easy to implement, so I believe it.

Re: Elevating original reporting in Search

#143

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There should also be more representation from far-left organizations. See this article on how Google traffic to far-left sites dramatically dropped in 2017, due to Google deciding to promote "authoritative" content ahead of "alternative viewpoints": https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/09/19/goog-s19.html "Authoritative content" seems correlated with center-left in the US context, though the US center-left may be co…

Fair enough, I guess, if you also want to give more representation to far right organizations. The organizations OP mentioned are not far right. They are mainstream right. With the possible exception of RT, which I'm not actually all that familiar with.

Fox News is far right, it was founded to with the explicit purpose of putting far right view points into the main stream[0].

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/06/roger-a...

Re: Elevating original reporting in Search

#144
post #125

Authoritative seeming sources are not always a good thing. Anytime you search for a game guide/faq/hint you get drivel from the big name sites that are super short on content and have bad advice. Almost in all cases the content I’m looking for is in some tiny blog that barely ranks but matches all the search words.

> Authoritative seeming sources are not always a good thing. Yeah, but what if stupid people search for the wrong thing, find the wrong website and get infected with Wrongthink? Have you thought about that? Crushing amateur content creators and betraying all the ideals of the early Web is small price to pay for preventing that intolerable scenario.

I have this feeling like 30% of the time on HN and never know how to articulate it. I was online in the 90s and never expected to see so much widespread support for curbing free speech.

It's like the Russians won.

Re: Elevating original reporting in Search

#145
post #78

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I had totally forgotten about "verbatim tool". Thanks. Further, I see there's now an option to disable "relevant" (personalized) searches. https://www.google.com/preferences "Private results Private results help find more relevant content for you, including content and connections that only you can see." Followed by checkbox. The linked explainer suggests the "relevant" (personalized) search is informed by your activ…

Does any one know how to erase "personalized search" information from being not logged-in?

Sorry, no. I have a "least effort" approach. Browser plugins and use DDG. I assume everything about me is still being recorded by someone somewhere.

Re: Elevating original reporting in Search

#147
post #125

Authoritative seeming sources are not always a good thing. Anytime you search for a game guide/faq/hint you get drivel from the big name sites that are super short on content and have bad advice. Almost in all cases the content I’m looking for is in some tiny blog that barely ranks but matches all the search words.

These days I tend to prepend or append my queries with Reddit, specific subreddits, various StackExchange sites, etc. Usually I get some higher signal there.

Re: Elevating original reporting in Search

#148
post #57

Okay let's give this a try news.google.com -> Democratic debate Websites: BBC, Vox, Guardian, NYT, WaPo, CNN, Slate (wow), The New Yorker, USA Today Absent: National Review, Fox News, Wall Street Journal, reason, Forbes, RT So basically the news algorithm considers these kinds of stories high quality: 1) Stephen Colbert plays Democrat Drinking Game (NYT) No Greg Gutfeld sketch ? 2) Funniest one-liners at the Democrat…

As a comparison : https://www.thefactual.com/news/story/214519-Democratic-Deba...

Full disclosure: I am one of the techies who built it.

Comments/Feedback welcome.

Re: Elevating original reporting in Search

#149

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> Authoritative seeming sources are not always a good thing. Yeah, but what if stupid people search for the wrong thing, find the wrong website and get infected with Wrongthink? Have you thought about that? Crushing amateur content creators and betraying all the ideals of the early Web is small price to pay for preventing that intolerable scenario.

I have this feeling like 30% of the time on HN and never know how to articulate it. I was online in the 90s and never expected to see so much widespread support for curbing free speech. It's like the Russians won.

There's a dual cause here: illiberalism is increasingly in vogue in our culture and politics, but early internet and tech culture were already heavily skewed towards individualism and independent thought: part of this was inevitable with the mainstreaming of the Internet and the fact that the average person is _far_ less comfortable with non-conformity.

Re: Elevating original reporting in Search

#150

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Maybe a giant list of websites in alphabetical order? (joking - we don't need another DMOZ)

That would at least make SEO easy: “How do we appear at the top of the results?” “We’ll call our website ‘AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA - Wikipedia’”

Off-topic, but:

https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/AAAAAAAAA!

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