This video is absurd. The headline on the video "Abortion is never medically necessary", but then goes on to state that "removal of an ectopic pregnancy" doesn't count because it's not an abortion. Umm, OK. She's really just defined all of the "medically necessary abortions" as not abortions.
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Re: Facebook removed a fact-check on anti-abortion video after Ted Cruz complained
#32The embedded video in the article is logical in its assertions and therefore doesn't leave room for argument (obligatory replies to this comment aside).
Unfortunately, logical arguments in an emotionally charged topic are usually heard as inflammatory, as many logical married individuals can attest. So this political tug-of-war response should come as no surprise.
Re: Facebook removed a fact-check on anti-abortion video after Ted Cruz complained
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps instead of "pro life", a better moniker would be "forced birth"
Maybe pro-taking-responsibility
That would make sense if both parents were the only ones facing equal repercussions but alas an innocent child potentially has to suffer in the process.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Going" downhill? https://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9827886/abortion-clinic-attack... "Since 1977 there have been eight murders, 17 attempted murders, 42 bombings, and 186 arsons targeted at abortion clinics and providers across the United States. In some cases, a small group of clinics have been targeted multiple times."
I mean, that is terrible, but abortion clinics commit millions of murders each year according to pro-lifers, so your comment falls on deaf ears.
They forget all the manslaughter by mothers who miscarry, plus all the fratricide when one twin absorbs another. It's a god damn slaughter in America's uteruses!
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#36It's unfortunate that big tech is essentially acting as a "morality arbiter" in such cases -- perhaps we need not only a separation of church and state, but also of tech and state.
if you want a social network where you can say whatever you want without interference go use gab or 4chan. it's facebook's choice whether or not they want to do this. edit: "whatever you want" supposed to be figure of speech, seemingly this must be pointed out.
You mean 8chan? I don't know about gab but you can not say whatever you want on 4chan...
Re: Facebook removed a fact-check on anti-abortion video after Ted Cruz complained
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
They screened videos to ensure the facts pertaining to a medical procedure were correct. The fact check itself had nothing to do with politics.
In France it's illegal to show a picture of a downs person who is happy, just in case it makes a woman think twice about aborting one.
This... this is fascinating. Do you have any good sources?
Re: Facebook removed a fact-check on anti-abortion video after Ted Cruz complained
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Going" downhill? https://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9827886/abortion-clinic-attack... "Since 1977 there have been eight murders, 17 attempted murders, 42 bombings, and 186 arsons targeted at abortion clinics and providers across the United States. In some cases, a small group of clinics have been targeted multiple times."
Are you accusing everybody who is pro-life of doing or supporting this? Because that's really what it sounds like.
I believe that pcj50's point is that the debate has not been "going" downhill. It's been down, at the very bottom, for a very long time, and there's nowhere further down to go (short of a real shooting civil war).
Re: Facebook removed a fact-check on anti-abortion video after Ted Cruz complained
#39I am pro-life, with the exception of medical emergencies. I'm not going to argue about that. Seeing the discourse going downhill like this hurts, since it's just one more broad-brush tool to use against a different side.
I agree. The discourse in your country doesn't seem to revolve about facts any more. At the moment it's just political. I'm wondering why this is on HN at all. We all know whatever is going to be said about this topic is going to be political eventually. (wow fastest downvote ever, I just posted this, like 5 seconds, and it already got a downvote :)
Agreed on all points. I've lurked HN forever and consider it one of my very few feel-good places online. This post, and (already) some of the comments are not appropriate to my understanding of the site.
Edit: to be clear, by "feel-good" I do not mean "positive," emotionally, just not subject to the same level of useless vitriol common elsewhere--which is where this thread is going.