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Sad that you make almost no effort to push responsibility on the people hiring undocumented workers
How? Good luck conducting an ICE raid on a business in 2019.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adolfoflores/ice-raids-...
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I think you might be surprised how many people support open borders.
Oh, there might be quite a few in terms of absolute numbers, but as a percentage of the population they are most definitely in the minority. See this Harvard poll from last year: https://caps.gov.harvard.edu/news/caps-harris-poll-immigrati... Not only do the majority of Americans not want open borders, they want less immigration than is currently occurring.
I would argue that many people oppose open borders in practice but not in theory. There are good practical reasons why open borders are a bad fit for many situations. That does not mean that those situations can't be changed to make that no longer true.
It's hearing things like this that make me regret having supported Luckey on his Kickstarter. I had followed him for a few years on the MTBS3D forum when he was experimenting with various HMD prototypes (usually modding the heck out of the Forte VFX-1). He just seemed like a kid with a dream, and the will and ability to make it happen - and potentially revive VR for "Round 2". I suppose he did do that, and while I di…
Eliminating borders is a recipe for disaster. You can't expect your country to remain the same if you let millions or dozens of millions of people freely coming in from different cultures and backgrounds. Immigration is all about "how much is still OK to let in (trade-off between risks and benefits)", and once you say "whoever wants to enter", it's hard to take this kind of opinion seriously.
The economic argument for free migration is identical to the one for free trade[1].
Do you find it hard to take free trade advocates seriously?
[1]https://contexts.org/articles/the-economics-of-migration/
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> sheer luck Not really. Your ancestors worked hard to improve the environment you were born in. It wasn't luck that created western civilization, it was the hard work and ingenuity of the generations that came before us.
Sure, but none of that has anything to do with you or your accomplishments which is where luck enters the equation as to your starting place. For the record I think borders should be secure, but also allow pathways to citizenship.
We didn't earn it, but we were given it by our ancestors. While it does behoove us to be generous, it is still ours by right. We also have an obligation to our descendants to preserve it for them.
What good is it working to improve the fate of our descendants, if it is only going to be taken away from them because they didn't "earn" it?
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I think you might be surprised how many people support open borders.
Oh, there might be quite a few in terms of absolute numbers, but as a percentage of the population they are most definitely in the minority. See this Harvard poll from last year: https://caps.gov.harvard.edu/news/caps-harris-poll-immigrati... Not only do the majority of Americans not want open borders, they want less immigration than is currently occurring.
The border situation (between whatever countries) is affected by globalization and communication, including the creation of the internet. When people realize how much better they can have it elsewhere (which is much easier to realize than it used to be), it creates more demand to move. But this results in a spike of demand that will normalize over time.
And this is because other effects of globalization have already started to normalize the differences between countries. For instance, it's not as cheap to offshore as it used to be, and that trend will continue. Human rights are increasing in other countries at a faster rate than they used to, just from the greater visibility of the rights people enjoy in other countries.
If we're all lucky, most of the normalization will be that other less advanced countries will improve, rather than other countries degrading - like hopefully we can all "grow" enough fast enough that it'll lift those boats, rather than sink the boats in the more societally/technologically advanced countries.
And that fear that "them getting ahead" might mean that "we will fall behind" is basically what drives the demand to "protect" our borders, even while generally people are in favor of everyone having a better life.
So I think it's totally possible for a majority of the country to be in favor of more open borders over time, while also being against entirely opening all our borders tomorrow.
It's hearing things like this that make me regret having supported Luckey on his Kickstarter. I had followed him for a few years on the MTBS3D forum when he was experimenting with various HMD prototypes (usually modding the heck out of the Forte VFX-1). He just seemed like a kid with a dream, and the will and ability to make it happen - and potentially revive VR for "Round 2". I suppose he did do that, and while I di…
Eliminating borders is a recipe for disaster. You can't expect your country to remain the same if you let millions or dozens of millions of people freely coming in from different cultures and backgrounds. Immigration is all about "how much is still OK to let in (trade-off between risks and benefits)", and once you say "whoever wants to enter", it's hard to take this kind of opinion seriously.
Moreover the US actually had more or less open borders for a long time, calling into some kind of date at which its society should be preserved at is a little bit arbitrary.
It's hearing things like this that make me regret having supported Luckey on his Kickstarter. I had followed him for a few years on the MTBS3D forum when he was experimenting with various HMD prototypes (usually modding the heck out of the Forte VFX-1). He just seemed like a kid with a dream, and the will and ability to make it happen - and potentially revive VR for "Round 2". I suppose he did do that, and while I di…
I applaud your honesty in expressing a desire for open borders. I think culture would benefit from more open and honest discussions on this topic as all the double speak makes it frustrating and boring to discuss, normally. I’m not really very interested in borders one way or the other but national borders certainly aren’t “artificial.” There are certainly some artificial aspects (lines of longtitude, etc) but border…
Nation states are an invention of the last few hundred years. Before that, kingdoms had borders between the lands they controlled militarily, and while they would certainly stop an invading army, they didn't have the administrative capacity or desire to stop small scale migration of individuals.
Historically, the culture and language of people living on the Baltic in what is now Germany would certainly differ greatly from the language and culture of people living on the Mediterranean in what is now France. But there was not some magic dividing line between those 2 points, between "the French" and "the Germans". People living around what is now the border of France and Germany would have had a very similar culture and spoken a very similar language.
In the last few hundred years, with the help of such technologies as the telegraph, the railroad, and the radio, nation-building rulers enforced speaking of the Parisian dialect in what is now France, and the Bavarian dialect in what is now Germany. They also created a lot of propaganda and myths about their "national culture" and invented far-fetched stories about the greatness of their national ancestors. In Germany's case, this went way too far and had disastrous results. The French national myths were much more benign, mostly centering around arrogance about cheese.
It's hearing things like this that make me regret having supported Luckey on his Kickstarter. I had followed him for a few years on the MTBS3D forum when he was experimenting with various HMD prototypes (usually modding the heck out of the Forte VFX-1). He just seemed like a kid with a dream, and the will and ability to make it happen - and potentially revive VR for "Round 2". I suppose he did do that, and while I di…
I applaud your honesty in expressing a desire for open borders. I think culture would benefit from more open and honest discussions on this topic as all the double speak makes it frustrating and boring to discuss, normally. I’m not really very interested in borders one way or the other but national borders certainly aren’t “artificial.” There are certainly some artificial aspects (lines of longtitude, etc) but border…
You'd be hard-pressed to identify a more artificial border in Europe than that one (maybe the former Yugoslavia). Curious if you've ever been to Alsace-Lorraine, and if so why you think the culture there is distinctly French versus their German neighbors.
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The standard counterargument is that not allowing mobility is what enabled us to have any nice places to begin with, in an "ant and grasshopper" way. Building a "nice" and affluent country is generally a multigenerational project involving plenty of individual sacrifice for the sake of a future that the sacrificing individuals will rarely themselves experience. If Norwegians knew that they all could move to any count…
This counterargument conveniently ignores the history of 'European colonization of America from the early 16th century until the incorporation of the colonies into the United States of America [0]'. I'm not the most well-versed on these topic (colonization / mobility) but it would seem that that mobility is what helped shape America into what it is today rather than "not allowing mobility". [0] https://en.wikipedia.o…
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Eliminating borders is a recipe for disaster. You can't expect your country to remain the same if you let millions or dozens of millions of people freely coming in from different cultures and backgrounds. Immigration is all about "how much is still OK to let in (trade-off between risks and benefits)", and once you say "whoever wants to enter", it's hard to take this kind of opinion seriously.
Countries should not remain the same. Stealing all this land from California to Texas from Mexico was absolutely not about leaving the country the same. Expelling the Latinos from there was certainly not about conservation of the then current state of affairs, it was a social adventure. Moreover the US actually had more or less open borders for a long time, calling into some kind of date at which its society should b…
Well, what's changed is that the US is rich and traveling is pretty easy.